Exit 12 - eviltoast
  • BakerBagel@midwest.social
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    6 months ago

    Obama was never a true progressive. His signature legislative victory was literally just yhe Republican health care plan from 10 years earlier. It was literally based on Romney’s overhaul of the Massachusetts health insurance reforms as governor.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      His signature legislative victory was literally just yhe Republican health care plan from 10 years earlier.

      It was actually a more conservative (shitty) version of Romney’s plan.

      But his campaign was progressive, and it flipped solid red states.

      So when the only goal we’re allowed to focus on is stopping trump, we don’t need an actual progressive. A moderate pretending to be progressive will be enough.

      It worked for Biden in 2020, but this election he stopped pretending and is only demanding votes.

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        6 months ago

        And what happened afterwards? Because Obama’s failure to make meaningful changes to the average American’s life resulted in the Democrats loosing support in huge swaths of the country and gave us Trump.

        • jj4211@lemmy.world
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          6 months ago

          I’d say if that held true, Obama would have had a difficult time getting re-elected. He got re-elected effortlessly. People were broadly content, though less energized for his re-election bid.

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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          6 months ago

          But he was still able to get a second term.

          Biden doesn’t look like he’ll be able to.

          Like. You’re right, I agree with what you said.

          But what gave us trump was running Hillary. We could have gotten an Obama 2.0 that did the same shit as Obama and had two terms, they’d just now be leaving office.