Why was it a surprise? Biden’s debate problems leave some wondering if the press missed the story - eviltoast
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      4 months ago

      I’m saying you already lost

      Mate, the only result that I would consider as losing is a Republican president.

      The moderates aren’t going to pull a PUMA again, because there’s no way the DNC is nominating a progressive or even anyone besides Kamala.

      They’ll fall in line, progressives will give her the benefit of the doubt like we gave Biden last time.

      And regardless of what she’ll be like as a president and her abysmal favor ability numbers, trump is shit enough she can beat him. I don’t think Biden can, but if we’re stuck with him and he manages to pull it off, I’ll still count that as a win.

      Just like I don’t think Kamala is the best candidate to beat trump, or the best president. Standards are low and it’s not recent. I’ve literally spent decades just voting against Republicans, this shit ain’t new for progressives.

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          4 months ago

          Lol just like everyone fell in line to vote for Hillary

          She’s like the one example of an actual Dem.that would do worse than Biden…

          And one of the main real complaints about her, was her refusal to listen to voters. The same thing Biden is doing now.

          Kamala is a woman and a minority

          Look, I’m not here to argue for Kamala. Personally I think she’ll be a bad president, and they’ll pull the same no primary shit in 2028 if she runs this year.

          But at this point it’s just about beating trump.

          I know people like videos more than articles these days, so check this out:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jic_uL3-q4

          It’s Cody Johnston, one of the OG Cracked editors from when Cracked was good.

          He doesn’t want Kamala either, but he makes the most convincing argument that she can beat Trump. And realistically I don’t see the DNC picking anyone else.