Zelenskyy: If Trump Has Plan to End the Ukraine War 'He Should Tell Us Today' - eviltoast
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    The USA, Iran and Russia are responsible for syrian civil war. None should have got involved in it

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      Be as that may be, Trump absolutely selling out the Kurdish Militia that was a long time US ally in the region was not acceptable.

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        Trump absolutely selling out the Kurdish Militia

        Shhh, the MSM isn’t saying anything negative about the orange felon.

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          Imperial powers created Syria. Modern Syria anyway. The entire Middle East has been an Imperial project since colonialism. Pretty much only the Saudis and Israel (and Iran, if you want to count it as Middle Eastern) aren’t on board.

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            I mean, not for lack of trying, they did stage a coup and plant the Shah of Iran as the leader for a while

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          Of course it had nothing to do with the repressive authoritarian regime killing its own people because they had the temerity to protest.

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            Of course the usa support rebels because they care about syrians and human life and not because they only cares about their own interest. The usa representing democracy is the number one supported of coups over the world, the country who represent human rights ignores the crimes commited by israel and is allying with saudi arabia. The countries who had revolutions without imperialist powers didn’t fell into a civil war inlike all other revolutions with russia or usa interference.

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      The start of the Syrian civil war had nothing to do with anyone except the Syrian people being pissed off at living under the most restrictive police state in the Arab world. There were protests after a mass arrest and subsequent torture of 15 teenage boys who had spay-painted some anti-government graffiti on some walls around the city.

      Assad cracked down on the protests hard, which led to people saying, “fuck this shit, time for a revolution”.

      Iran started helping Assad, and then the US started helping the rebels. And yeah it’s a shit show now. But no, it would have kicked off without outside help.

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        A lot of people would still have died without outside intervention and syrian had the right to kick of the revolution against asad. I don’t disagree with that but outaide intervation definitely made it a lot worse. Ben ali wasalso very brutal but due to the lack of interests from major powers the revolution in tunisia was relatively very peaceful

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          Again, the context is important. Mostly that the Tunisian military refused to step in and support Wasalo, eventually forcing him to flee.

          Asad on the other hand, is still very popular with his own ethnic group, and draws heavily from them to staff his military. Iran’s help just made things worse.