In just a few years, half of all states passed bans on trans health care for kids - eviltoast
  • NoSuchAgency@reddthat.com
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    4 months ago

    We’re talking about kids here. Kids brains aren’t fully developed yet. That’s why we don’t let them drive, drink, smoke, or consent to sex. If they want a sex change, just let them do it when they become an adult

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      If they want a sex change, just let them do it when they become an adult

      That’s already how it works. You’re angry at a thing that doesn’t exist and that nobody is suggesting.

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      Yes, that’s correct. They need puberty blockers, so they can make the decision when their old enough instead of having that decision forced upon them.

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      That’s why we don’t let them drive, drink, smoke, or consent to sex.

      You were never a teenager, were you?

      • bitchkat@lemmy.world
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        Age to drive: 16? Still a teenager Age of consent: varies by state but is generally around 15 or so. Smoke: gross. But I never heard of a teenager having much problems acquiring tobacco, alcohol, or weed.

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          Kids in my daughter’s middle school were vaping. According to my daughter, a kid’s mom was selling vapes through them to kids in the school. There will always be a market to sell kids contraband and plenty of kids will be happy to pay a premium for it regardless of what their parents say.

          But in this case, with gender affirming care, it’s generally a case where the parents also want the child to have that care. It’s being denied despite what the parents, the child, and even their doctor wants.

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      Oh look, a conservative who knows nothing about the thing they’re loudly bitching about.

      Trans healthcare is FAR more than genital surgery, in fact thats a pretty small segment overall. Especially with teens were largely talking about therapy more than anything, and OCCASIONALLY easily reversible treatments like hormone blockers. NOBODY is out here slicing up children’s genitals (except the circumcision folk of course, which y’all are conveniently silent about)

    • bitchkat@lemmy.world
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      That is exactly what gender affirming care for youths is. Its basically staving off puberty until they are old enough to determine that they really do want medical transisition.

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        What if stopping those hormones also pauses development that might change what they believe they are? There was a recent study that shows there is a sizeable chunk of youths that decrease their gender non-contentedness as they age. There is also a group that it grows with age. It would be an interesting study to see if these numbers stay the same with puberty blockers. If zero kids on puberty blockers decide not to transition that would be pretty telling.

        https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-024-02817-5#:~:text=Moreover%2C we identified three different,gender non-contentedness

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          If zero kids on puberty blockers decide not to transition that would be pretty telling.

          Maybe, if that were anywhere close to what is actually happening. In reality, there are more cisgender children taking puberty blockers than there are trans children taking them, so the number of kids deciding not to transition after taking blockers is >50%. Your speculation is baseless.

          • xenspidey@lemmy.zip
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            4 months ago

            That wasn’t speculation, I was just curious. If that’s actually the case that’s great. And of course it’s lemmy so I’ll get downvoted for any honest questions.

            • Laurentide@pawb.social
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              Unfortunately, honest questions are indistinguishable from the horde of transphobes spreading misinformation and sowing uncertainty under the guise of “just asking questions” (sealioning).

              If you are genuinely curious, then I recommend starting with the Wikipedia article on puberty blockers, and also reading the one on precocious puberty which is a condition in very young children that is treated by the same drugs. (Tellingly, this usage is non-controversial and exempted from all of the new laws banning puberty blockers for trans children.)