Israel has acknowledged some military strikes on humanitarian workers, including an April attack that killed seven workers with the World Central Kitchen and has denied allegations of others.
So Israel doesn’t want any aid to Gaza…
Have killed aid workers multiple times…
And now aid workers are being pulled because Israel keeps killing them.
Sounds like the UN is negotiating with a terrorist state.
But the people are largely in support of the government, even if they are not in support of the specific members of the current government, although the voted them into power repeatedly.
Meanwhile the few Israelis that speak out against this are getting attacked by their countrymen. Especially practicing Jews who speak out for Palestine are brutally beaten up. Of course the West does not acknowledge this rampant antisemitism.
Or, you don’t know what you’re talking about…and Israel actually does care about getting aid into the country, and that’s why the UN framed this as a warning.
Edit: Shout out to absolute know-nothing reactionaries downvoting this post.
Israel actually does care about getting aid into the country
Is this why there was the flour massacre and many others around that time, and why the WCK aid workers were killed? Oh yeah and why they said they were stopping all food and water? And why there is much less aid coming in than there was before the war even started, when the need was much lower?
Wow, two trucks blown up out of how many tens of thousands of trucks?
Don’t be an idiot. They were travelling a “safe” route. They were coordinating their position with Israel. They were innocent aid workers. They should have never been killed. Making out it is fine because it’s “rare” is ridiculous.
“Hysterical”? No. I used no emotive language (apart from “massacre” which is generally how that event is referred to), I just listed some of the many facts that show Israel is the main problem for aid distribution. Calling this “hysterical” is a pathetic rhetorical trick to make out that that everyone else is “emotional” and you are “rational.” It’s embarrassing.
Hysterical would be: OMG those innocent aid workers were BUTCHERED by Israel, brutally killed in the prime of their life. This is the worst crime imaginable, can you think of how their parents feel?! These people are monsters, MONSTERS. Worse than Hitler. Like Satan himself. If you didn’t cry about this you are SCUM.
I said they “were killed.”
Totally emotionless.
What? There is less aid than before the war because there is a war. How does that not make sense to you?
It’s totally possible to designate actual safe zones for humanitarian purposes and give these people aid. And “because there is a war” there is much more need for humanitarian aid. Because Israel has destroyed food production, water desalination plants and much more. But obviously you know that.
Israel increased the demand for aid, killed people distributing aid, stops much of the aid from getting in, and makes it impossible to safely get it (e.g. flour massacre) and you have the gall to say they “want” aid in. Give us a fucking break.
Around 500 trucks with aid and other commercial supplies were entering Gaza daily before the conflict, when the enclave was also able to produce much of its food through agriculture and fishing, both of which have nearly entirely ceased.
UNRWA communications director Juliette Touma said both humanitarian and commercial supplies were needed for Gaza because the entire population was now dependent on handouts, which was not sustainable.
Down from 500 to 100 to 200 a day. Rarely (like in the linked story) more, often much less. Never 500 since October, despite calls from around the world.
This is why you fall back on pretending everyone arguing with you is overly emotional or just stupid. The facts are staring all of us in the face and we see it too clearly. You want to pretend this is “normal” but have to really double down in the face of such overwhelming evidence.
Yes two aid trucks, two accidents, neither one was covered up, the perpetrators were fired and will be prosecuted. That’s normal for war.
What’s not normal is a country that needs 500 aid trucks a day. Gaza has been dependent on handouts for decades. They would have had Darfur-level starvation twenty years ago and would not exist at all today if not for the charity of the West and, mainly, the charity of Israel.
That charity is the very thing that enables Hamas. The people of Gaza would never tolerate Hamas if they actually had to pay the price of it. You know, the price of diverting all of your country’s natural resources to building terror tunnels, turning all of your countries International banking and shipping infrastructure into modalities of international terrorism.
Hey, they would need zero trucks a day if they used their water port or air port, used their international relations to broker commodities trading.
No, they have no interest. They are happy to live on handouts as long as their leadership is fielding mercenaries to kill Jews.
That’s who you’re defending.
But you are flat out lying. Gaza has built three desalinization plants in Gaza since this war has started. Every one of them built with charity. Every one of them built with materials that Israel allowed into the country. None of the three have been bombed.
But you are flat out lying. Gaza has built three desalinization plants in Gaza since this war has started. Every one of them built with charity. Every one of them built with materials that Israel allowed into the country. None of the three have been bombed.
Yes two aid trucks, two accidents, neither one was covered up, the perpetrators were fired and will be prosecuted. That’s normal for war.
And did you just ignore the hundreds of killed aid workers I mentioned (and linked a source for) in my last comment? You say just “two accidents” as if that’s it.
What’s not normal is a country that needs 500 aid trucks a day. Gaza has been dependent on handouts for decades
I’m just not impressed by 500 bodies in a warzone. It doesn’t matter that they’re volunteers.
Aid workers. Protected by international law. But also it’s only about 250. I guess you are less “impressed” now as if that was the goal, lol.
500 died. Why do you ignore the tens of thousands who did not?
Yeah I broke your nose, but why are you ignoring the 205 bones I didn’t break? Hopefully you can see how stupid a thing this is to say.
Just kidding it’s because it doesn’t fit your narrative of the evil Jewish aggressor and makes you sound hysterical and idiotic.
Please show me anywhere on my entire Lemmy account where I have said anything negative about Jewish people because they are Jewish and not just because the ones in the IDF are DOING WAR CRIMES and also happen to be Jewish. I never even mention this because it does not matter. You can tell this very easily because if you do look through my account you will see me criticise Hamas for their war crimes and the US political establishment for supporting Israel’s war crimes.
And half of Gaza’s water infrastructure being destroyed (based on BBC satellite photos and guesswork) also does not impress me.
It should not have been diverted to support terrorists holding hundreds of hostages underground for months on end. That’s why it was a target.
Oh no, poor Gaza. They gave all their water to terrorism and didn’t save enough for themselves. Policy has consequences. Your gripes are with Gaza’s water policy under Hamas, not with people who are defending themselves.
And like, Jesus fucking Christ. Did you read your own article? Did you look at the photograph in the very first picture in the article that shows the water tanks clearly were not targeted by Israel? No, of course you didn’t, because it doesn’t support your imaginary version of the evil Jew.
And half of Gaza’s water infrastructure being destroyed (based on BBC satellite photos and guesswork) also does not impress me
Wasn’t trying to impress you. Just clarifying that I was not lying.
Oh no, poor Gaza. They gave all their water to terrorism and didn’t save enough for themselves.
“Gave all their water to terrorism” - do you even hear yourself? Did the malnourished children “give” their water to Hamas? I can’t even believe you’re being serious here.
And like, Jesus fucking Christ. Did you read your own article? Did you look at the photograph in the very first picture in the article that shows the water tanks clearly were not targeted by Israel?
Yeah of course I did. It’s the middle one here. How exactly does this show it’s not been targeted? And if they really aren’t targeting them, why have 53% been destroyed or damaged? Are they the worst army at aiming in the world or something?
No, of course you didn’t, because it doesn’t support your imaginary version of the evil Jew.
Are you saying I’m antisemitic for believing the FACT that Israel has damaged much of the water infrastructure in Gaza?
The UN framed this as a warning because they really don’t want to stop sending aid into Gaza and the alternative is not to announce any changes at all.
Yes. It’s a shame their political leadership sold out their lives in furtherance of a pan-islamic caliphate and a Jewish genocide.
Nothing makes Hamas happier than seeing their children be killed to Israeli bombs. The fact of its happening is their only weapon in this war. It’s called lawfare. Look how well it works on you.
Right. Nothing to do with Israel killing a large number of aid workers and destroying supplies, while killing civilians who try to get to them. It’s Hamas holding back sitting on piles of food… Makes sense.
Sync has the feature too, but I wouldn’t recommend that since it has ads and also just doesn’t have a very nice feel like Voyager, Boost, Thunder, and Connect do…
Bro we get it. You are very clearly some Israeli payed guy to get ur propaganda across. You can stop now. I don’t need to read from multiple secures, like the UN itself, that Israel is actively hindering help in Gaza, to then come to Lemmy and get told by a random that everyone is lying and Israel is secretly the good guy.
This isn’t some conspiracy against Israel. Israel is actively committing genocide.
So Israel doesn’t want any aid to Gaza…
Have killed aid workers multiple times…
And now aid workers are being pulled because Israel keeps killing them.
Sounds like the UN is negotiating with a terrorist state.
Mayhaps the people of Israel aren’t a hive mind and different groups want different things?
Is it possible that many of want aid entering and work hard for it to flow into Gaza, while others violently oppose it?
He said israel is a terrorist state. This means the government. And the policies of said government.
The people are not the government.
But the people are largely in support of the government, even if they are not in support of the specific members of the current government, although the voted them into power repeatedly.
Meanwhile the few Israelis that speak out against this are getting attacked by their countrymen. Especially practicing Jews who speak out for Palestine are brutally beaten up. Of course the West does not acknowledge this rampant antisemitism.
Of course. If only Palestinian society was afforded the same amount of nuance.
Or, you don’t know what you’re talking about…and Israel actually does care about getting aid into the country, and that’s why the UN framed this as a warning.
Edit: Shout out to absolute know-nothing reactionaries downvoting this post.
Is this why there was the flour massacre and many others around that time, and why the WCK aid workers were killed? Oh yeah and why they said they were stopping all food and water? And why there is much less aid coming in than there was before the war even started, when the need was much lower?
Words are cheap. Israel’s actions speak volumes.
Wow, two trucks blown up out of how many tens of thousands of trucks? You don’t find your reaction a little hysterical?
What? There is less aid than before the war because there is a war. How does that not make sense to you?
Don’t be an idiot. They were travelling a “safe” route. They were coordinating their position with Israel. They were innocent aid workers. They should have never been killed. Making out it is fine because it’s “rare” is ridiculous.
If you want to play numbers, Israel killed 254 aid workers up to the end of April.
“Hysterical”? No. I used no emotive language (apart from “massacre” which is generally how that event is referred to), I just listed some of the many facts that show Israel is the main problem for aid distribution. Calling this “hysterical” is a pathetic rhetorical trick to make out that that everyone else is “emotional” and you are “rational.” It’s embarrassing.
Hysterical would be: OMG those innocent aid workers were BUTCHERED by Israel, brutally killed in the prime of their life. This is the worst crime imaginable, can you think of how their parents feel?! These people are monsters, MONSTERS. Worse than Hitler. Like Satan himself. If you didn’t cry about this you are SCUM.
I said they “were killed.”
Totally emotionless.
It’s totally possible to designate actual safe zones for humanitarian purposes and give these people aid. And “because there is a war” there is much more need for humanitarian aid. Because Israel has destroyed food production, water desalination plants and much more. But obviously you know that.
Israel increased the demand for aid, killed people distributing aid, stops much of the aid from getting in, and makes it impossible to safely get it (e.g. flour massacre) and you have the gall to say they “want” aid in. Give us a fucking break.
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Down from 500 to 100 to 200 a day. Rarely (like in the linked story) more, often much less. Never 500 since October, despite calls from around the world.
This is why you fall back on pretending everyone arguing with you is overly emotional or just stupid. The facts are staring all of us in the face and we see it too clearly. You want to pretend this is “normal” but have to really double down in the face of such overwhelming evidence.
Yes two aid trucks, two accidents, neither one was covered up, the perpetrators were fired and will be prosecuted. That’s normal for war.
What’s not normal is a country that needs 500 aid trucks a day. Gaza has been dependent on handouts for decades. They would have had Darfur-level starvation twenty years ago and would not exist at all today if not for the charity of the West and, mainly, the charity of Israel.
That charity is the very thing that enables Hamas. The people of Gaza would never tolerate Hamas if they actually had to pay the price of it. You know, the price of diverting all of your country’s natural resources to building terror tunnels, turning all of your countries International banking and shipping infrastructure into modalities of international terrorism.
Hey, they would need zero trucks a day if they used their water port or air port, used their international relations to broker commodities trading.
No, they have no interest. They are happy to live on handouts as long as their leadership is fielding mercenaries to kill Jews.
That’s who you’re defending.
But you are flat out lying. Gaza has built three desalinization plants in Gaza since this war has started. Every one of them built with charity. Every one of them built with materials that Israel allowed into the country. None of the three have been bombed.
Isreal destroyed the airport lol, are you serious? What a load of bullshit.
Yeah. They sure did.
Now say why.
Please read: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68969239
And did you just ignore the hundreds of killed aid workers I mentioned (and linked a source for) in my last comment? You say just “two accidents” as if that’s it.
Lol I wonder why 🤣
I didn’t ignore them at all. I’m just not impressed by 500 bodies in a warzone. It doesn’t matter that they’re volunteers.
That sort of thing can happen when you volunteer to go to a war.
500 died. Why do you ignore the tens of thousands who did not?
Lol I wonder why. 🤣 Just kidding it’s because it doesn’t fit your narrative of the evil Jewish aggressor and makes you sound hysterical and idiotic.
Aid workers. Protected by international law. But also it’s only about 250. I guess you are less “impressed” now as if that was the goal, lol.
Yeah I broke your nose, but why are you ignoring the 205 bones I didn’t break? Hopefully you can see how stupid a thing this is to say.
Please show me anywhere on my entire Lemmy account where I have said anything negative about Jewish people because they are Jewish and not just because the ones in the IDF are DOING WAR CRIMES and also happen to be Jewish. I never even mention this because it does not matter. You can tell this very easily because if you do look through my account you will see me criticise Hamas for their war crimes and the US political establishment for supporting Israel’s war crimes.
I am anti asshole. Not anti Jewish.
And half of Gaza’s water infrastructure being destroyed (based on BBC satellite photos and guesswork) also does not impress me.
It should not have been diverted to support terrorists holding hundreds of hostages underground for months on end. That’s why it was a target.
Oh no, poor Gaza. They gave all their water to terrorism and didn’t save enough for themselves. Policy has consequences. Your gripes are with Gaza’s water policy under Hamas, not with people who are defending themselves.
And like, Jesus fucking Christ. Did you read your own article? Did you look at the photograph in the very first picture in the article that shows the water tanks clearly were not targeted by Israel? No, of course you didn’t, because it doesn’t support your imaginary version of the evil Jew.
Wasn’t trying to impress you. Just clarifying that I was not lying.
“Gave all their water to terrorism” - do you even hear yourself? Did the malnourished children “give” their water to Hamas? I can’t even believe you’re being serious here.
Yeah of course I did. It’s the middle one here. How exactly does this show it’s not been targeted? And if they really aren’t targeting them, why have 53% been destroyed or damaged? Are they the worst army at aiming in the world or something?
Are you saying I’m antisemitic for believing the FACT that Israel has damaged much of the water infrastructure in Gaza?
Israel attacked far more than two aid trucks. What are you even talking about.
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The UN framed this as a warning because they really don’t want to stop sending aid into Gaza and the alternative is not to announce any changes at all.
But Israel does want the aid coming in…
So they can strap the aid workers to the front of their trucks maybe
Grow up.
Unlike all those Palestinian kids amarite.
Yes. It’s a shame their political leadership sold out their lives in furtherance of a pan-islamic caliphate and a Jewish genocide.
Nothing makes Hamas happier than seeing their children be killed to Israeli bombs. The fact of its happening is their only weapon in this war. It’s called lawfare. Look how well it works on you.
Oh I see, killing childen is okay because of “those people who are making israel do it”. Makes perfect sense now thank you.
They block most of it and murder the people distributing it on a regular basis
Ridiculous. All the food that comes in is because they let it in.
The second sentence is true. They’re inducing famine conditions but allowing an extremely small amount of food in.
Hamas induced food insecurity in Gaza. Period.
Right. Nothing to do with Israel killing a large number of aid workers and destroying supplies, while killing civilians who try to get to them. It’s Hamas holding back sitting on piles of food… Makes sense.
You’re lying again. Period.
The user labelling feature is nice because I knew you were a zionist loser before even reading this nonsense
That feature is the one thing I miss after switching to Voyager 🫤
I use Voyager also. Which app are they referring to? I like Voyager but haven’t used many apps for lemmy.
Sorry I didn’t realize it wasn’t a gobal feature. I use “Connect” on Android or the web client.
Boost or the web client, probably.
Sync has the feature too, but I wouldn’t recommend that since it has ads and also just doesn’t have a very nice feel like Voyager, Boost, Thunder, and Connect do…
Wonder if they made their name emojis to pretend to not be the resident troll
How can you do that? I use Voyager.
Bro we get it. You are very clearly some Israeli payed guy to get ur propaganda across. You can stop now. I don’t need to read from multiple secures, like the UN itself, that Israel is actively hindering help in Gaza, to then come to Lemmy and get told by a random that everyone is lying and Israel is secretly the good guy.
This isn’t some conspiracy against Israel. Israel is actively committing genocide.
Delusional.
You could also go to Washington DC. Or you could ask who virtually any head of state from any Western democracy. All of whom agree with me.
UNRWA is basically a coconspirator to Hamas. It’s the largest employer in Gaza. Hamas is the largest political bloc. It’s simple math.
Look at UNRWA’s own literature, promoting martyrdom as a way of life (and death) to kids.
You’re content to condemn how many more generations to such hopelessness and corruption?
There is no hope for a better future for Palestinian children when living under the violence of Apartheid