non vegan pizza time - eviltoast
  • Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org
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    5 months ago

    It’s like if you pay a hitman to do some murders for you. Are you a murderer? I guess not technically, but ‘conspirator to commit murder’ doesn’t have the same ring to it. Thus we just opt for rapist, since you support an industry that annually rapes cows and kills their calves so that you can enjoy a tall glass of cow juice.

    It’s ok if that’s what you want to do. No judgement here.

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        5 months ago

        You can’t really compare the two things. You have limited control over how your taxes are spent, you can vote on how you want them spent and protest the actions of your government, but outside of that it’s not up to you.

        With milk, though, you are directly financing it by buying the product, and the product wouldn’t exist without those things happening. So you are in effect a ‘conspirator to cow rape’ since your demand incites the act.

        • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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          5 months ago

          Dairy production is heavy subsidized so even if you don’t buy it you are still supporting the industry.

          So yes it can be compared.

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            5 months ago

            Ok, so because you’re being needlessly pedantic here is the comparison.

            I am not directly responsible for the wars and murders my government commits because of the reasons I stated above. But if they had a big bucket that said ‘put money in this big bucket to directly support the wars and murders of your government’ and I were to put money in of my own free will - then yes I would be directly responsible for those wars and murders.

            If I do not put money in I am not directly responsible.

            That’s the difference between paying taxes and buying a bottle of cow milk.

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        5 months ago

        Yeah, I used a metaphor to help explain how you can be found responsible for something even if you didn’t do the thing yourself.

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            5 months ago

            I guess I don’t agree with you. If I buy a product that specifically requires the death of an animal I would feel like I am responsible for the death of that animal and monetarily incentivising the death of other animals.

            If I pay a hitman to kill someone I am not innocent of murder.

            You don’t get to support an industry that kills animals and then say you’re not responsible for the death of animals.

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              5 months ago

              the animal is dead long before I walk into a store or restaurant, and the people who did the killing have already been paid. I have no responsibility for that.

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        5 months ago

        Without getting into a semantics debate on what rape is. The reason the word is used is because dairy cows are impregnated by fisting the cows asshole and stimulating their cervix before squirting a semen gun into their vagina. The cows cannot consent to this so the word rape is used. Some people might not consider it rape for whatever reason and yes, the word was probably chosen to be provocative. But that’s the explanation.