376 boys in blue sat around and let 19 kids and 2 teachers die - eviltoast
  • _tezz@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Your framing of people who are concerned about gun violence as “the anti-self defense crowd” is very disingenuous. No one is anti-self defense.

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      5 months ago

      I’m sure there are some extremes where people are anti self-defense, lol.

      But I absolutely 100% agree. As someone who does support the 2nd amendment AND reasonable gun control, people who are concerned shouldn’t be called “the anti-self defense crowd”, because it’s a legitimately valid concern, just as much as defending yourself and others.

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        5 months ago

        Yeah exactly! I’ve been around a lot of guns in my life, have shot several different types, come from a hunting family, yadda yadda. Honestly people in general shouldn’t be blanket trusted to be safe with weapons, because in my experience many of them just are not. I don’t think having guns is a problem in itself, we just need to make sure people are safe. Many serious self-defense experts advocate for running or removing yourself from potentially dangerous situations before exercising violence, and I think we can carry that philosophy forward into our lawmaking.

        Something I haven’t seen before that I’d like to see tried out would be some sort of required firearms training, but make it mandatory that a local certifier, a police or sheriff’s liaison or something, perform the training for free to citizens. I think if we had police doing it that might be a chance to foster some good will with the community, do some regular humanizing type stuff. No infringement of anyone’s rights, and I also get what I want in more safe gun owners.

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          5 months ago

          That’s a good idea in theory, I just hope no problems come with it! Also yea, I’ve shot a few guns at my local range. I’ve stopped going because I got chronic pain, shooting a gun, having to have a proper posture, grip, dealing with loud noise (obv), I don’t think it’s for me, or everyone for that matter.

          Giving every teacher a gun doesnt mean they’ll be able to handle it, let alone the situation of fighting a school shooter.

          The police on the other hand did sign up for combating shit like that.

    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      5 months ago

      It would seem that many of them are under the impression we can regulate away “most of” the crime and therefore we won’t need to defend ourselves, and we can do this by passing laws like feature bans which only affect people who are afraid of going to prison (which is to say, not mass shooters.) They’d probably tell you they don’t mind self defense, but their actions betray their words.