Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending Sunday 16 June 2024 - eviltoast

Need to make a primal scream without gathering footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid!

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

  • mountainriver@awful.systems
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    ā€œNational socialismā€ is the term the Nazis invented to describe themselves. ā€œNaziā€ is the abbreviation of the term ā€œnational socialismā€. Could be good to know.

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      5 months ago

      also good to point out for someone just finding out about this:

      (1) The name is a lie in the same way ā€œthe democratic peopleā€™s republic of north koreaā€ is. So Peckham is absolutely correct that the Nazis hated socialists and were not socialists, as evidenced by the fact that they tried to kill all of them.

      (2) The modern version of this lie is pretending the Nazis were socialists, and itā€™s a very common tactic in the far right. So Peckham is correct that we should not call them socialists, itā€™s just that using the term ā€œnational socialistā€ doesnā€™t actually imply you think they are socialists.

      (3) They did spring originally from the fusing of former socialist idealogues with the far right. So as with many massively successful lies there is a distant evolutionary relationship to something true.

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        5 months ago

        no, nobody here is particularly shocked that fascists would lie about being socialists

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        donā€™t be the annoying pedant; weā€™re fully capable of understanding that the ā€œnational socialist german workersā€™ partyā€ was not a socialist party (and that a ā€œnaziā€ is a pejorative and was from the start), that the phrase ā€œmarxist-leninistā€ is generally used to mean ā€œleft-authoritarian but want to pretend it isnā€™tā€, that the ā€œcommunist party of the soviet unionā€ was actually presiding over a project of building an authoritarian state capitalism, and that the ā€œrepublicanā€ party in the united states is trying to make the united states a theocratic dictatorship.