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  • Feathercrown@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    To address the least objectionable part of this comment (it bugs me and the rest has been covered already):

    This is a term that has evolved into this place, not one person put it this way

    How do you expect terms to evolve without people making arguments like this? You accept it as a fact that these terms evolve and are agreed upon somehow, but you’re missing that this happens through individual people making points like this.

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      5 months ago

      Why does it need to evolve? It is feminism you know what it is. You are for all of it but the name, so you won’t support it?

      And don’t do what dummy above said and claim you support it but don’t use the label because it is gendered. That is some privileged ass shit bro. Bore me to death out here

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        5 months ago

        It is feminism you know what it is.

        I mean, we do, but a surprising amount of people don’t. This is precisely why the name should evolve. Well, that and the perspective that the movement’s goals have changed significantly enough from individual liberation of women to comprehensive equality of everyone, which should come with a corresponding change in the name. These are related.

        You are for all of it but the name, so you won’t support it?

        It’s more that if people are informally introduced to the movement, their preconceptions are formed by its name. This can turn them off from seeking or accepting the real nature of the movement once it’s explained to them. As a reminder, most people put very little thought into this sort of thing, so making a good impression for the people who are potential allies is important. You can argue that that’s stupid and shouldn’t be necessary, but it won’t stop it from working like that.

        And don’t do what dummy above said and claim you support it but don’t use the label because it is gendered.

        I don’t think I’ve ever encountered a situation where it’s useful to directly say “I am a feminist” because it’s generally clear from my other opinions, but I would if the situation required it. I do agree that an alternative label would be better, though.

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          5 months ago

          That’s not evolution lol that is forced rebranding because of how some dudes feel. If their hurdle is the term feminism then good, they’re not ready to be adults.

          Shake my god damn mother fuckin entire head bro. shake that shit left and then right over how foolish you boys are.

          Horsepower, Butterfly, Literally, Blowjob, The Democraric People’s Republic of Korea. You cool with that shit but not Feminism? Because your weiner isn’t in the title???

          Like bro there are still places called Indian Creek in America. Feminism is the term we gotta go after though?

          I bet every dude saying this line of thought uses words like literally and doesn’t bat an eye.