"we" the "people" - eviltoast

no one fucking told me about states banning RCV during all that yapping on here about how i should VOTE THIRD PARTY OR ELSE IM COMPLICIT in the DNCs CRIMES

it may or may not be joever, very blackpilled at this moment

edit it’s actually 10 states. 5 in the past two months.

  • PeggyLouBaldwin@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    your characterization is bad faith. my degree is in philosophy. i know what my ethics are, and it’s not “Bask in innocence at all costs”. it’s “do the right thing”. the right thing cannot be determined by the outcome since we can’t know the future, so it would be impossible to know what the right thing to do is. therefore, the ethics of the action must be in the action itself. murdering people is bad. pulling the lever is bad. qed.

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      5 months ago

      You do know the future though. At least - to some extent. You know that one of two candidates is going to be elected, not matter what. Or, at least, almost no matter what. Maybe a huge asteroid will hit the Earth and the elections won’t matter. But the probability for these is so low, that you can effectively “count on” the fact that one of these two candidates is going to get elected.

      The only question is which one.

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        5 months ago

        knowledge of the future is impossible since you can only know true things and the future hasn’t happened yet, so it has no truth value.

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          5 months ago

          Isn’t the entire anti-voting argument based on the knowledge that the candidate you’ll vote for will do bad things in the future?

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              5 months ago

              What they’ve said and done in the past serves as an indicator for what they’ll do in the future if elected. If you ignore that aspect, then voting becomes a system for rewarding politicians rather than a system for deciding the future of a country.

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                5 months ago

                but the ethics can’t be in what they do in the future. the ethics of the action are in the vote itself, and the only information yo uhave is about the past.