Alcohol causing 20 times the harm of meth, police float tighter regulation - eviltoast

TL;DR:

  • Alcohol $7.8b
  • All illicits: $1.8b
  • Meth: $0.365b

I wanted a figure for cannabis and found this from 2020:

PDF https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/publications/the-nz-illicit-drug-harm-index-2020-10-feb.pdf

  • All illicits: $1.9b
  • Meth: $0.824b
  • Cannabis: $0.911

I notice that the per kilograms measure for harm is also useful to account for volume of usage, but think that per ‘dose’ would be better.

  • Meth: $1.1m per kg with 743kg consumption
  • Cannabis: $0.35m per kg with 58000kg consumption

These figures include ‘associative crime’ as harm. So it apparent counts the cost of buying it as harm, it also counts the tax loss of that expenditure, so IMHO it skews unfavourabley to higher expenditure. But put that aside.

These figures show that all illicit drugs combined are less harmful to society than alcohol, and tautologically the harm is inflated by illegality.

    • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz
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      5 months ago

      Agreed.

      But the situation is more nuanced than simply saying everything is up for grabs.

      Weed should be fully legal, controlled quality and trusted. Tax revenue would help pay for health complications from the usage.

      There needs to be a harm based assessment of each substance.

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          5 months ago

          Every comment you’ve made here has been completely devoid of nuance, insight, or intelligence, and quite frankly, you sound like a bit of a moron.

          Methamphetamine is an incredibly addictive and harmful substance, with drastic health risks to it’s consumption, and making it easier to access is a terrible idea.

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            Every comment you’ve made here has been completely devoid of nuance, insight, or intelligence, and quite frankly, you sound like a bit of a moron.

            You sound like my university professors.

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              Heheh.

              Seriously though I wish professors didn’t say stuff like that. It’s bad pedagogy.

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              If you’ve genuinely been to university, this shows that intelligence and education don’t always follow one another.

              • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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                5 months ago

                Hey I can handle you calling me a moron but implying I’m lying is a step too far.

                Do you typically attack people personally because you disagree with what they are saying?

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                  I’m pointing out that people who hold a viewpoint that one thing is the way to go in all situations, with no exceptions, is something I typically associate with a lack of critical thinking ability.

                  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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                    Every comment you’ve made here has been completely devoid of nuance, insight, or intelligence, and quite frankly, you sound like a bit of a moron.

                    It sounds like you’re just insulting my intelligence.

                    Methamphetamine Is so highly addictive and has such bad side effects that the FDA approved it for a treatment for ADHD and obesity in children.

                    It’s called Desoxyn.

                    How many of the negative thing associated with it are just because it’s illegal? Have you spent any time thinking about that or do you just like insulting people?