Doom can run on anything - eviltoast
  • Baby Shoggoth [she/her]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 year ago

    there are 8 logic gates in a byte

    uh. no? a logic gate isn’t a bit. you can store a single bit with a pair of not gates to make a flip flop, but the core logic here is flawed

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      Right? Even if it weren’t, this only calculates how many crabs it would take to store Doom, not run it.

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        No mention of fps or latency, authors clearly not gamers.

        Imagine some Smash Bros players who get pissy about 16.6ms playing on a CrabCPU with 13s latency…

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      you can store a single bit with a pair of not gates to make a flip flop

      Isn’t it a pair of NAND gates? You can make anything with NAND gates.

      Like this:

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        You can also do it with NOT gates. The driver needs to overpower the gates to change the bit and then it acts like a D flip flop rather than an RS flip flop like NAND gates will. But that’s generally how they’re actually made. SRAM generally looks like this: The side transistors are called access transistors; they’re there so you can selectively read/write, but aren’t needed to store the bit.

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        So here’s some bad math. 160 crabs per NAND gate / byte. Doom’s original file size is roughly 2.39MB (I couldn’t find an actual source for this but it’s touted all over the web).

        So 2390000 bytes * 160 crabs is 382400000 crabs.

        So you can run doom on 382.4 million crabs

        Edit: store, not run

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          They’ve got diagrams of OR and AND gates with the crabs.

          I feel like they would need a NOT gate to do anything meaningful, which obviously isn’t possible. You can’t have zero crabs going in with crabs coming out. Without a NOT gate I don’t think they can do much in the way of traditional computing - you probably can’t run Doom on any number of crabs (although I’d love to be proven wrong).