Egypt changed terms of Gaza ceasefire deal presented to Hamas, surprising negotiators, sources say - eviltoast

Egyptian intelligence quietly changed the terms of a ceasefire proposal that Israel had already signed off on earlier this month, ultimately scuttling a deal that could have released Israeli hostages and Palestinian prisoners, and set a pathway to temporarily end the fighting in Gaza, according to three people familiar with the discussions.

The ceasefire agreement that Hamas ended up announcing on May 6 was not what the Qataris or the Americans believed had been submitted to Hamas for a potential final review, the sources said.

The changes made by Egyptian intelligence, the details of which have not been previously reported, led to a wave of anger and recrimination among officials from the US, Qatar and Israel, and left ceasefire talks at an impasse.

  • HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    See, you’re being downvoted but I see no media openly recalling their articles and saying they jumped to conclusions.

    Is Israeli innocent of everything - very doubtful. But people are screaming how bad Israel is because of what is seen in the media, that they argue and scream more about how bad they are when facts come out the media was wrong.

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      6 months ago

      People scream about how bad israel is based on high civilians casualities, ton of genocidal israel statements and ton of videos documenting IDF crimes

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        Yes, and where do you see these?

        Are you reading peer reviewed journal articles, or media articles about them? ICJ and ICC reports, or media commentary on it? Are you talking with victims and politicians, or what the media says is happening?

        This is the point the other poster and I are getting at - your entire information on this conflict is the media that has been shown multiple times to jump to conclusions.

        Does it excuse actions from both sides - no. But have a fucking think about what the media is telling you.

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          6 months ago

          Tiktok and telegram have a ton of them unedited videos. Many of them are filmed by soldiers themseves venting about their crimes. There’s zero way to interpret them wrong

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            6 months ago

            No, but I see how my wording can seem that way. Its that when your view of something is based on the media, you can’t dismiss someone bringing new facts to light with that viewpoint formed by the media.