‘Not genocide’ says Biden after ICC warrants sought - eviltoast
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    6 months ago

    with intent to destroy

    dolus specialis (intent) is the most crucial part of genocide. Without it none of the five acts apply.

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      6 months ago

      “intent to destroy in whole or in part”.

      https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-mp-no-innocents-gaza-should-burn-now

      “I don’t think there are any innocents there now, not now and not when I said those things,” Vaturi said.

      “I urge you to do everything and use Doomsday weapons fearlessly against our enemies,” Gotliv wrote on social media platform X, calling upon Israel to use “everything in its arsenal”.

      In November, Galit Distel Atbaryan, Israel’s former public diplomacy minister, called for Gaza to be “erased from the face of the Earth”, stating that the besieged enclave should be “wiped out” by a “vengeful and vicious” Israeli army.

      Last week, lawmaker Moshe Saada said that widespread calls he had heard from the Israeli public to “destroy all Gazans” had proven that the “right-wing was right about the Palestinian issue”.

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        I’m not saying they can’t prove it. They might be able to, the problem is connecting public statements to official Israeli policy.

        “I don’t think there are any innocents there now, not now and not when I said those things,” Vaturi said.

        It’s not right, but he said this after an evacuation of the area.

        “I urge you to do everything and use Doomsday weapons fearlessly against our enemies,” Gotliv wrote on social media platform X, calling upon Israel to use “everything in its arsenal”.

        This is pretty vague and specifically mentions “enemies”

        In November, Galit Distel Atbaryan, Israel’s former public diplomacy minister, called for Gaza to be “erased from the face of the Earth”, stating that the besieged enclave should be “wiped out” by a “vengeful and vicious” Israeli army.

        This guy isn’t even in office, it is ironic he was a diplomacy minister

        Last week, lawmaker Moshe Saada said that widespread calls he had heard from the Israeli public to “destroy all Gazans” had proven that the “right-wing was right about the Palestinian issue”.

        This is a pretty good example but he never says that the right-wing policy is to destroy all Gazans, just that the public wants it.

        It’s not such an easy thing to prove. There are plenty of right-wing extremists in Israel’s government right now, it’s likely they have crossed the line with their rhetoric but rhetoric isn’t policy. I have yet to see any smoking gun evidence that Israel specifically intends to commit genocide (in a legal sense, not a moral or colloquial way).