Woman killed by her two XL bully dogs at home in east London - eviltoast
  • Optional@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Cripes, what kind of a dick do you have to be to your own dogs to get attacked by them?

    • ArbiterXero@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Sometimes the breed temperament has more to do with it than anything else….

      But also assholes all seem to like the same breed so….

      • Optional@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        Breed temperament is a thing, but all dogs can be good dogs. Most are good with only slight work. People get a breed they can’t handle and no one’s happy.

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          6 months ago

          It pains me to say this as a great dog lover, and someone that has known some very loving pitbulls, Sadly not all dogs can be good dogs.

          Like people, some are just born as “assholes”

          But yes, breed temperament is a thing. Not an absolute thing, but still a thing.

      • Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        My buddy legit owns a dire wolf (half wolf, half dog) and never had a problem in the last ten years. He owns a large chunk of property so the dog isn’t restricted to one room in an apartment in the city, and he knows how to handle a large animal. I will say one thing, that thing commands respect, it’s easily 7 foot from back paws to front paws.

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          6 months ago

          Even pitbulls are safe in the right hands. Fuck it, tigers and lions and silverback gorillas are safe in the right environment.

          However a proper education in caring for the animals aswell as proper enclosures and a knowledge of the animal and its needs….

          Yes you CAN do it, but should Tom from down the street have his own pitbull army and alligator pool in his back yard?

          Hard pass.

          I’m sure some people can do it safely, but training, registration, safety, etc…. Ban them all as pets unless you get X license, like a gun.

          • Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world
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            6 months ago

            You barely need to pass a background check to get a gun, lol. It’s harder to get a driver’s license. I’m not saying your wrong, just using a gun as reference is not the best comparison. If your doing private transfer of gun ownership, which is completely legal in most states, the background check is irrelevant.

              • Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world
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                6 months ago

                I’m unfamiliar with Canadian law but I bet if your friend or neighbor wanted to sell a gun and you wanted to buy, the background check process would be a lot easier than if you went to a retailer like Walmart or whatever, and would probably still be considered legal.

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                  6 months ago

                  When my step dad died, it was a difficult process trying to legally sell his hand guns. You can’t buy guns from Walmart here either. That’s so strange that you can where you’re from.

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                6 months ago

                They might be inanimate objects but they are much more destructive than dogs. Can a dog kill you? Yes. Can a gun kill you? Yes, but a gun is much more likely to get the job done than a dog.

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                  6 months ago

                  Actually all a gun can do is sit there. There is zero chance of your gun killing you. You might accidentally kill yourself with it, but the gun is never going to kill you.

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      6 months ago

      There is no evidence that she was being terrible towards the dogs

      Some dogs can just snap and decide to not be nice one day, its a good reason you don’t let dogs you’ve seen be calm interact with babies because it only takes a small amount of the dog not being nice to end up harming a baby

      Older people have a better chance of surviving dog attacks but the chance isn’t 100% and cases like this can happen

      And if I recall correctly this breed is more prone to aggressiveness

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        6 months ago

        I doubt it. Not walking them enough, keeping them cooped up, no outlets - especially if they weren’t fixed. Sad all around, but the dogs are not hatching evil plans, they’re just dogs.

        Spay and neuter. Spay and neuter. And adopt.

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          6 months ago

          Dogs that snapped are not being evil, it’s just them acting on instinct. It’s doesn’t make them bad dogs, but it does make them dangerous.

        • x4740N@lemmy.worldOP
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          6 months ago

          Dogs can still have the potential to snap regardless if you’ve given them a good life

          They could just snap from having a tantrum

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          6 months ago

          Some dogs get older and I assume confused and just snap. My grandmother’s dog, sweetest girl, golden retriever, service dog, previously good with other animals and cats. My Grandmom brought home a kitten and the dog mauled it. Do not trust dogs. Just like people they can do something totally out of character.