U.S. put a hold on an ammunition shipment to Israel - eviltoast

The Biden administration last week put a hold on a shipment of U.S.-made ammunition to Israel, two Israeli officials told Axios.

Why it matters: It is the first time since the Oct. 7 attack that the U.S. has stopped a weapons shipment intended for the Israeli military. The incident raised serious concerns inside the Israeli government and sent officials scrambling to understand why the shipment was held, Israeli officials said. President Biden is facing sharp criticism among Americans who oppose his support of Israel. The administration in February asked Israel to provide assurances that U.S.-made weapons were being used by Israel Defense Forces in Gaza in accordance with international law. Israel provided a signed letter of assurances in March.

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    6 months ago

    I don’t think it’s possible to justify support for apartheid.

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      Agreed. It’s been the standard since Israel was conceived in 1948, but there are a lot more liberal people in Israel now. The ultra-orthodox make up only 13% now, and those are the conservatives that got Netanyahu into power. He only has a 15% approval rating since January, and there have been massive protests since March. Let’s hope they do the right thing with the next election and allow Palestinians access to their holy land.

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        Netanyahu’s opposition are even more openly fascist. There is no meaningful left in Israel.

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          That sounds like ignorant nationalism. I have Israeli-American friends that describe the party very differently. I may believe you if you could substantiate it with proof of their fascist left wing.

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            The very fact that their “left” still wants an apartheid state! There’s no Israeli left party that wants to give equal rights to Palestinians and return their homes.

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                The trick here, that was even covered in that paper, is the difference between what Palestinians think a one state solution is and what Israelis think a one state solution is.

                In that study they found the Palestinians viewed a single country with equal rights for all as a one state solution. The Israelis thought it meant a state with all of the territory but without the Palestinians.

                Frankly, the liberal Israelis wouldn’t be for a one state solution if it also meant giving up the land and property stolen from the Palestinians through terrorism.

                “Scratch a liberal, and a fascist bleeds”

                Watch how fast they’d turn right wing if property in west Jerusalem or east Jerusalem had to be given up.

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                  Where do you see the point about Israelis believing it would be without Palestinians? I’ve read it twice now, and I don’t see that understanding anywhere. Did you make that up?

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                    Figure 2 and figure 4 on page 7 and 8.

                    My description is definitely hyperbole, but it’s still stretching the truth less then your ‘leftist Jewish people really do want as a majority this thing that the study shows as single digit, or just barely double digit at 10%.’ thing.

                    also, leftists don’t want things stolen through terror.

                    This really reads as a cope study for American Jewish people that don’t want to deal with the cognitive dissonance that the internal contradictions of leftism and Zionism automatically produces.

                    There is no ethical way to create a new homeland for a people that underwent a diaspora that is ethical when the land they want is already occupied.

                    Edit: plus it won’t matter as long as the state of Israel has a law requiring Jewish Israelis maintain the majority population. Oh yeah, that’s a thing.

                    Edit: this is done on a phone and I’m correcting autocorrect mistakes that don’t change the point.