Enlightened Centrists - eviltoast
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    6 months ago

    I pointed out that most of the stuff you said is mostly irrelevant to Democrats’ leftness relative to worldwide political parties. I’m sorry that you’re so immature that your immediate response to someone pointing out that you’re wrong is randomly calling them racist against Roma for whatever reason.

    You can’t take literal socialists with socialist policies, and compare them to US democrats, and say “yea capitalist liberals are more leftist than socialists/syndicalists/social democrats”. It goes against the entire divide of left and right. Even if they have an immoral stance on immigration or Ukraine or something, leftism is still leftism.

    Unless you wanna argue that Lenin was actually more right-wing than US Democrats or something for some shitty beliefs he held (although he was generally a pretty good guy when it came to racism, actually he was a pretty good guy in general usually). Or Che Guevara (now he has some far more spicy views). Or Tito. In fact, there are many notable leftists throughout history with problematic views, who are still quite undeniably leftists. “Leftist” doesn’t just mean “good person”. It, broadly, means anti-capitalist but can encompass some bordering ideologies which still exist within capitalism yet lean heavily into the worker’s democracy stuff and are strictly anti-corporatism. That kind of stuff has no place in America, and Democrats definitely don’t even come close despite being “the better choice” for workers.