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  • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    You said the Jewish people need self-determination, just like Native Americans, and I agree.

    But since you can convert to Judaism, does that mean anyone who converts gets to have a spot in Israel? And if a Native American converts to Judaism, do they get a house in Manhattan and Israel?

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      7 months ago

      I have no idea what you’re trying to get at. I am talking about the jewish as a people, not as a religion. So you don’t just ‘convert’. Jewish is an identity that goes beyond religion.

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        7 months ago

        How many generations of observing Jewish religious practices does it take before one can claim that identity? Do the children of a Jewish person and a non-Jew only get to have a spare bedroom? What about someone with Jewish grandparents? Is a convert who follows religious doctrine strictly less worthy of a free house than my Jewish friend in high school who loved bacon cheeseburgers?

        What I’m getting at is this sort of thing is exactly the problem: Thinking of Jewish people as “other” and “separate” is a precondition to discrimination. Acknowledging that they live everywhere and are part of the religious tapestry of a multi-ethnic nation is better and safer.

        tl;dr - Adam Sandler’s Hannukah Song has a powerful antisemitic message.

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          Thinking of Jewish people as “other” and “separate” is a precondition to discrimination.

          Jewish identity has been formed because of the discimitation and segregation they have been subjected to. Their aspirations to have their own safe environment is a reaction to that. Antisemitism predates Zionism.