Combining two different internet debates - eviltoast
  • lauthals@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    Of course I see the orange portal moving. So we agree the orange portal is moving, the blue is stationary.

    So, when you’re saying “the people just pop out the other side”. What does that mean? Do they pop out one by one? So one moment, no one is there, the next moment one person spawns and after that the third person spawns? Or do they spawn altogether? Or does each person come from the portal centimeter by centimeter, atom by atom - pushing through the portal?

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      1 year ago

      It’s on a slant so they will just fall down and yes on top of each other one by one

      • lauthals@feddit.de
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        1 year ago

        That’s not what I mean. Let’s just look at one person: the person will not just appear as a whole at the blue portal, right? First there will be, I don’t know, the left arm, then the left side of the torso, the middle part… and so on. That’s what I meant with centimeter by centimeter, atom by atom - pushing through the portal. Would you agree?

        At least that’s how it’s in the game. It’s not that you are touching one portal, despawn and appear at the other portal, right?

        • Shiki@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Yeah they kinda lose ground under them as the portal goes through them, they aren’t pushed, they are moved through space. No additional force or momentum is ever applied.

          In the game you aren’t pushed through ever, you walk through or fall through them. You appear at the other side of the door.

          • lauthals@feddit.de
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            1 year ago

            Yes. And you said it correctly: they are moved through space. Now tell me: at which speed are they moved through space?

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              1 year ago

              No speed at all, the portal doesn’t give or create energy and they were stationary as they passed through

              • lauthals@feddit.de
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                1 year ago

                So, you say, they are moving without speed. Which could only mean when one person touches the portal in one millisecond, his complete body just disappears completely from the rails and in the same millisecond his body appears behind the other portal.

                That’s not how portals in the game work. That’s rather how the transporter in Star Trek works.

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                  1 year ago

                  Who even said anything about teleporting the whole body?

                  The portal is moving into him so as the parts of him go through they appear on the other side like a door

                  Think of it as a portal falling on you and another on the floor next to you, as it falls your head goes through and your head appears through the portal on the ground and the rest of the body goes through as it falls until the portal lands on the floor and you’re standing on that same floor but in the other place as the portals are still connected.

                  • lauthals@feddit.de
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                    1 year ago

                    Nobody said it’s teleporting the whole body. But that was my only explanation of how something can move without speed.

                    But great, that’s what I wanted to clarify the whole time. I think my explanations were too complicated, sorry.

                    So, taking your example:

                    When the portal falls on me - as soon as it reaches my neck. Only my head is coming out of the other portal, literally right above the ground. Correct?

                    As the portal keeps falling down, more and more of my body comes out of the other portal until my whole body is out of it. Correct?

                    Which leads to the fact that my head was moving from right above the ground to the height of my body. Correct?

                    So my head moves upwards. And since it takes time for my head to move upwards, we can measure the speed of my head moving upwards. Wouldn’t you agree?