I’m not back peddling, I’m just spitting out any words you try and put in my mouth for a canned argument rebuttal. Or maybe we are just talking past each other. As long as both want good EV to replace ICE cars and fair trading, we’re probably not far off each other. As China becomes richer, it quality of everything will go up and cheap substand manufacturing will move to another country. Then that place or places will get the bad rap to climb out of. The cycle continues. Pretty that is starting now.
We aren’t talking past each other, you’re again advancing foolish and baseless racist falsities that have been disproven in previous comments.
“As China becomes richer, it quality of everything will go up.”
Incorrect, because 1) they are the worlds 2nd largest economy, so obviously money isn’t an issue 2) you’ve agreed that it is the fault of companies outside of Chinese requesting subpar products that result in subpar products manufacturing, not Chinese manufacturing standards 3) the quality of their products are already independently tested to exceed that of countries you are more ethnically sympathetic to.
You’re making the same false arguments backed by zero evidence and racist disclaimers.
You must know that it’s not total wealth of the nation, but the wealth of citizens that matters. When China is broadly all middle class, there won’t be cheap labour. Amazon, EBay and others is still awash with cheap goods that doesn’t always pass standards claimed. As I’ve repeatedly said, I don’t just blame Chinese companies for this, but those large multinational companies. I have said multiple times, it is unfair that Chinese manfacturing is blamed alone for this. There really should be “Amazilian” to go with “Chinesium” or something that combines them. This cheap crap is a problem for a lot of people. The environment. The buyers, not protected by the standards of their markets. Other manufacturers, having to acturally follow the standards, so struggle to compete on cost even more. It has made people, including me, skeptical of what may well be quality good coming out of China. Time will tell and build reputation. I hope for the end of cheap crap, but as I said, it will move on from China. Other economies have room for a lot of growth until all citizens everywhere are broadly similar. Seams like none of this is something I haven’t basically said at least once before…
Insisting on your ethnic-based(“Chinesium”) value judgments rather than accepting the relevant, material non-ethnic information that disagrees with your misguided notions is racist.
You are again conflating industry with ethnicity. They are not the same thing.
Again, I’m saying that term exist because the problem exists. Again, Amazon and EBay, etc, should be blamed too. I’m arguing about governance. Race doesn’t even exist. EU and US (and others) have turned a blind eye to the sale of things not meeting regulations of their markets. The Chinese government has turn a blind eye to this stuff manufacture and the flyby night shell companies selling it. I’ve already said China will not always be the place and it will move on to somewhere else. The problem, which you seam to want to deny exists and try to shut down will calls of racism, is not really China, it is bad governance and capitalism, and just corruption. As I said multiple times, it’s not really fair China is blamed alone.
It’s gratifying that you’re backtracking and blaming your ignorance and irrelevant criticisms on the government and corporate responsibility, that is a step forward for you, but it doesnt negate your previous ethnic prejudice and certainly doesn’t excuse you from continuing to focus on narrow irrelevant criticisms that you clearly don’t understand and aren’t related to the topic.
Keep it up though, your equivocation of your own racial prejudice with corporate standardization has made it much easier to knock down your arguments.
And I do appreciate you agreeing with all of my points, if belatedly and with a healthy dose of intentional misunderstanding and manipulation.
It’s bizarre that you keep parroting my words to me, coated in a veneer of your own ethnic and cultural superiority, as if you’ve discovered, bastardized and colonized the concepts I have been explaining to you for a dozen comments.
Do you understand that you aren’t allowed to be racist because you don’t think race exists?
A disclaimer to cast aspersions on ethnicities you disapprove of is not what the phrase “race doesn’t exist” is for.
I’m not back peddling, I’m just spitting out any words you try and put in my mouth for a canned argument rebuttal. Or maybe we are just talking past each other. As long as both want good EV to replace ICE cars and fair trading, we’re probably not far off each other. As China becomes richer, it quality of everything will go up and cheap substand manufacturing will move to another country. Then that place or places will get the bad rap to climb out of. The cycle continues. Pretty that is starting now.
You’re peddling something.
We aren’t talking past each other, you’re again advancing foolish and baseless racist falsities that have been disproven in previous comments.
“As China becomes richer, it quality of everything will go up.”
Incorrect, because 1) they are the worlds 2nd largest economy, so obviously money isn’t an issue 2) you’ve agreed that it is the fault of companies outside of Chinese requesting subpar products that result in subpar products manufacturing, not Chinese manufacturing standards 3) the quality of their products are already independently tested to exceed that of countries you are more ethnically sympathetic to.
You’re making the same false arguments backed by zero evidence and racist disclaimers.
You must know that it’s not total wealth of the nation, but the wealth of citizens that matters. When China is broadly all middle class, there won’t be cheap labour. Amazon, EBay and others is still awash with cheap goods that doesn’t always pass standards claimed. As I’ve repeatedly said, I don’t just blame Chinese companies for this, but those large multinational companies. I have said multiple times, it is unfair that Chinese manfacturing is blamed alone for this. There really should be “Amazilian” to go with “Chinesium” or something that combines them. This cheap crap is a problem for a lot of people. The environment. The buyers, not protected by the standards of their markets. Other manufacturers, having to acturally follow the standards, so struggle to compete on cost even more. It has made people, including me, skeptical of what may well be quality good coming out of China. Time will tell and build reputation. I hope for the end of cheap crap, but as I said, it will move on from China. Other economies have room for a lot of growth until all citizens everywhere are broadly similar. Seams like none of this is something I haven’t basically said at least once before…
Repeating your incorrect or racist tangents multiple times is not a virtue, not does it suddenly make your false statements suddenly true
So any unflattering critique of a section of Chinese industry is racist. Though of American, is unnote worthy. You like the CCP by any chance?
Incorrect again.
Insisting on your ethnic-based(“Chinesium”) value judgments rather than accepting the relevant, material non-ethnic information that disagrees with your misguided notions is racist.
You are again conflating industry with ethnicity. They are not the same thing.
Again, I’m saying that term exist because the problem exists. Again, Amazon and EBay, etc, should be blamed too. I’m arguing about governance. Race doesn’t even exist. EU and US (and others) have turned a blind eye to the sale of things not meeting regulations of their markets. The Chinese government has turn a blind eye to this stuff manufacture and the flyby night shell companies selling it. I’ve already said China will not always be the place and it will move on to somewhere else. The problem, which you seam to want to deny exists and try to shut down will calls of racism, is not really China, it is bad governance and capitalism, and just corruption. As I said multiple times, it’s not really fair China is blamed alone.
It’s gratifying that you’re backtracking and blaming your ignorance and irrelevant criticisms on the government and corporate responsibility, that is a step forward for you, but it doesnt negate your previous ethnic prejudice and certainly doesn’t excuse you from continuing to focus on narrow irrelevant criticisms that you clearly don’t understand and aren’t related to the topic.
Keep it up though, your equivocation of your own racial prejudice with corporate standardization has made it much easier to knock down your arguments.
And I do appreciate you agreeing with all of my points, if belatedly and with a healthy dose of intentional misunderstanding and manipulation.
It’s bizarre that you keep parroting my words to me, coated in a veneer of your own ethnic and cultural superiority, as if you’ve discovered, bastardized and colonized the concepts I have been explaining to you for a dozen comments.
Do you understand that you aren’t allowed to be racist because you don’t think race exists?
A disclaimer to cast aspersions on ethnicities you disapprove of is not what the phrase “race doesn’t exist” is for.
Racism exists, but race doesn’t. It’s just social construct. Humans are boringly undiverse. I’ve not said anything else.