That’s the real takeaway. I’ve said it from the beginning of these posts, making an enemy of disaffected leftists does not make them want to vote for you. Additionally, the drop in support for Democrats is not the fault of leftists, but of Democrats.
Push the Democrats to do better, and leftists will come back. If more leftists see liberals heavily criticizing the DNC and pushing for better, it’s more likely that leftists will vote DNC.
Unironically though. If libs gave a fraction of the deference to leftists as they do to center-right moderates, this would be a very different conversation.
I love how those that are typically content with the US’s hawkish foreign policies, run-away inequality, and collapse of our planet’s habitable ecosystem are the ones labelled moderates.
Oddly enough, RFK Jr is campaigning on fixing all of those, but most people who care about those things still won’t vote for him, but will vote for Biden who has no intention of actually fixing those. I’d love to see voters actually vote for what they claim they want, instead of just voting for whatever party they are registered as. Most R and D will just vote along party lines, regardless of whether or not their candidate is actually a flaming bag of poo.
Being opposed to the science of vaccines should tell you he’s a guy who won’t listen to experts. That’s not what we want in a leader, we saw how well that went with Trump.
But even if he was the type to listen to experts, our election process in the US is “first past the post.” This makes any third party candidate a spoiler, therefore making it more likely that the candidate opposed to that third party’s issues will win.
I hate it, and wish we could do ranked choice or STAR voting to allow viable third party/independent candidates. But we don’t. He’s a science-denying spoiler and nothing more.
You need to listen to what he says, not what’s reported about him. He’s not against vaccines. He’s fully vaccinated, and so are his kids. He wants vaccines to be safer, and believes that not enough is done to make them safer.
That’s the real takeaway. I’ve said it from the beginning of these posts, making an enemy of disaffected leftists does not make them want to vote for you. Additionally, the drop in support for Democrats is not the fault of leftists, but of Democrats.
Push the Democrats to do better, and leftists will come back. If more leftists see liberals heavily criticizing the DNC and pushing for better, it’s more likely that leftists will vote DNC.
But then we lose the centrists!! /s
Unironically though. If libs gave a fraction of the deference to leftists as they do to center-right moderates, this would be a very different conversation.
I love how those that are typically content with the US’s hawkish foreign policies, run-away inequality, and collapse of our planet’s habitable ecosystem are the ones labelled moderates.
Oddly enough, RFK Jr is campaigning on fixing all of those, but most people who care about those things still won’t vote for him, but will vote for Biden who has no intention of actually fixing those. I’d love to see voters actually vote for what they claim they want, instead of just voting for whatever party they are registered as. Most R and D will just vote along party lines, regardless of whether or not their candidate is actually a flaming bag of poo.
Being opposed to the science of vaccines should tell you he’s a guy who won’t listen to experts. That’s not what we want in a leader, we saw how well that went with Trump.
But even if he was the type to listen to experts, our election process in the US is “first past the post.” This makes any third party candidate a spoiler, therefore making it more likely that the candidate opposed to that third party’s issues will win.
I hate it, and wish we could do ranked choice or STAR voting to allow viable third party/independent candidates. But we don’t. He’s a science-denying spoiler and nothing more.
You need to listen to what he says, not what’s reported about him. He’s not against vaccines. He’s fully vaccinated, and so are his kids. He wants vaccines to be safer, and believes that not enough is done to make them safer.
It wouldn’t even be a conversation, I think.