With discord planning to show ads, how can the fediverse/lemmy benefit from another proprietary program making itself worse? (Like it was with reddit) - eviltoast

Do you think that the fediverse has something to gain with the enshitfication of discord? Are there voice chat programs in the fediverse that can benefit from it?

  • chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.netEnglish
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    7 months ago

    I don’t know about other platforms, but YouTube membership is totally implementable on any other platform.

    The workflow anyone need to implement is the same flow Discord has implemented:

    1. Perform OAuth to get the user’s own channel using the mine filter on channels.list end point. This way the service can know SomeOneWatching is owner of channel UC1234ABCD
    2. Perform OAuth to get the host’s members on a fixed interval to get a list of all members, and match it against all known users’ channel IDs or target individual user like SomeOneWatching’s UC1234ABCD channel ID as part of filterByMemberChannelId on the same members.list end point.
    3. Upgrade users’ groups on the service to reflect membership accordingly, no direct YouTube partnership required.
    4. Revisit the same flow in 2 regularly to downgrade when memberships are not renewed; beyond the pubsubhubbub which notifies subscription content updates (new uploads/deletions) on a subscribed channel, YouTube does not have a push notification for automatic updates. This is why there’s always a slight delay when membership status changes.

    Source: I’ve worked in YouTube adjacent company using all of their public and several proprietary APIs for around 10 years now. I’m fairly familiar with their API offerings.

    • morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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      7 months ago

      That’s good to know, i thought it was be some kind of exclusive deal between the two entities.

      Of course, convincing people to get off Discord when almost everyone already have an account, a desktop app and a phone app ready to go sounds like a hurdle, but with time and enough enshittification™ anything is possible!