Blinken unloads on Bibi: "You need a coherent plan" or face disaster in Gaza - eviltoast
  • lennybird@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Imagine Trump Secretary of State Mike Pompeo ever saying something like this. You can’t.

    Which is why Trump would be worse for the people of Palestine.

    • ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Trump would not only allow the total destruction of Gaza and Palestine, but he’d even build a golf course directly on the strip

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        8 months ago

        Gaza is gone lol, much like abortion rights, all while Biden says you’re an idiot for not voting for him.

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          Factually incorrect and an erasure of the experience of the millions of Palestinians continuing to eke out a living in the concentration camp/warzone hybrid that the IDF have made Gaza into. You’re making it too obvious that you are arguing in bad faith and just want to attack Biden regardless of the facts. Not to mention bringing up abortion rights as if it is believable that Biden is responsible for a republican supermajority in the S.C. and the solution is to enable more republican control over the government

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            Just commenting to agree that the other user is clearly a wedge-driving troll with no interest in good-faith discussion. It’s clear how they just dodge the obvious counters and repeats the same drivel. Laughing my ass off that they tried to pin abortion rights losses on Biden LOL.

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              8 months ago

              Happened under his watch, and he hasn’t done anything to try and get women their rights back.

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                  The erosion of basic human rights leading to the deaths of innocent women isn’t funny. It’s kind of ironic that you call yourselves the land of the free, but that’s a different story.

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                    8 months ago

                    Oh darnit, there’s that reading comprehension deficit again! Allow me to explain: You see, it’s not the issues that are funny — no quite right; very serious — it is quite clearly your unparalleled leaps in logic as you draw these highly peculiar conclusions.

                    But Trump thanks you for your service, son!

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            8 months ago

            5 percent of the population is dead and over 50% of the homes and buildings are destroyed. For all intents and purposes, Gaza is razed.

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      Yawn. Got anything else?

      Your argument supposed we should just accept this out of the Biden administration because “Trump would be worse”…

      You get that the argument you are making isn’t good enough, don’t you? There won’t be a Palestine in November. It’s irrelevant what or how Trump would be when Biden is as bad as it needs to be for the total destruction of the Palestinian people right now. Not at some future date, but right now.

      Biden apologists for the US position on Israel and Palestinian are sustaining this genocide.

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        Yawn. Nope – for anyone with a modicum of reasoning capacity – that’s literally all I need.

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          So you are good with the genocide of the Palestinian people as long as it’s in a Democrats watch. Just want to make sure I’ve got you right.

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            8 months ago

            “Yawn.” Strawman.

            Buddy, listen:

            • Whatever happens between now and November, it doesn’t change the fact that an election is going to occur in November. Furthermore, in that election Trump would be worse in quite literally every conceivable way, including for the people of Palestine / Gaza. Therefore nothing you said has any impact on my point in my comment.

            • Feel free to pressure Biden to do more for Palestine in the meantime; just try to comprehend that if Biden too quickly shifts to abandoning longtime support for Israel, he may ostracize an even-larger voting bloc of Jewish Americans who by the polling support Israel pretty vehemently (80%+). If you think politically he can jeopardize that group versus the smaller far-left and Palestinian segments of the population, you’d be wrong. He must toe the line between these two groups.

            • No matter how hard you try to shoehorn Biden being responsible for the Genocide in Gaza, as a convenient wedge-driving tactic for which right-wingers love you for – it’s not goin to work. Netanyahu is responsible. Period.

            • If Trump were in office right now, the fate of Gaza would’ve been even worse. Forget the fact that you seem 100% a-okay with Ukraine not getting any more assistance either.

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              Bro you are so delusional it’s impossible to know where to even start. First, you the right winger here in your support of the genocide of the Palestinian people.

              Second, Biden is 💯 responsible for supporting Israel in their genocide of the Palestinian people. Netanyahu literally can’t do this thing without US support. Your support of Biden on this policy is a direct support of the genocide of the Palestinian people, full stop.

              Being an apologist for genocide is a bad look, you should try something else.

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                So you’ve got no substantive rebuttal to my points. I’ll take that as an indirect concession, thank you. Keep chanting your little game in puritanical pyrrhic victory where you shoot one’s self (and Palestinians for that matter) in the foot.

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                  Nah you just an ignorant rightwing edge lord masquerading as a leftist kid. You want to pretend that you know something about rhetoric with your disinterest in introspection but you’ve got a hard right stance on genocide. It’s just cover for your right wing views.