Normal people outside of America in rural places live in communities that can arrange for firewood delivery. The only reason you need your own truck is because you don’t have any semblance of infrastructure, community or mutual aid. This is a policy choice and a failure of your culture.
@PastaCeci@Elmerfuddz
It’s even worse than THAT: those huge trucks you see nowadays are almost never used to haul anything, and the owners don’t even try to pretend anymore -they acknowledge that it’s just about giving off a manly image.
I’ve lived in a rural area and my neighbors were always happy to lend me something if I needed it. If I needed a truck to haul wood I could just borrow one, or even get it delivered.
Not the person you replied too, but US is so large, I can imagine there’s situations where policy can’t support those sorts of things.
Not mention the fact that people who live in rural areas are more likely to have a culture of not wanting to interact with others and doing things on their own. Regardless, many of the policy changes to reduce car usage are really aimed at reducing car usage in dense areas rather than outright bans or the like. If these policies continue to work out in the US, the relatively few people living in rural areas with vehicles wouldn’t be problematic (in terms of causing traffic nor causing injuries/deaths)
@Habahnow@PastaCeci “I want to do it my self” says man purchasing petrol from Iraq to fuel a car manufactured by thousands of people and assembled in a dozen countries.
Anyone actually doing things by themselves isn’t concerned with car policy as they know they can’t produce a car.
They already are happy to purchase things from a store that have been delivered to that store in a collective way, what is weird about getting wood delivered to their property?
I feel this is such an dramatic and reaching response it’s almost like your intentionally being obtuse.
Some people like reducing their reliance on other people. It seems I need to emphasize the word REDUCE. I chose that word specifically instead of remove because as you pointed out, removing reliance on others is very difficult. These people sre the type of people I am referring to when I say they like to do things on their own.
The US is in no way exceptional or different than anywhere else.
Only in America is “doing things on their own” involve running a global empire to ensure their supply of oil. Without the federal government subsidizing rural people in America it would be physically impossible for them to live there, this is literally the opposite of being independent they are extremely dependent on massive globalized infrastructure.
Not everyone wants the US to run a global empire and coincidentally, the people were talking about are more likely to want the US interfering less with their lives and outside the country.
Eh, wasn’t too far off estimating that at 4 Raummeter: A cord is 3.62m2, close enough. In both cases you measure the total volume, including gaps, with quite some leeway in size of the pieces but they gotta be stacked or you get much less wood.
Common when buying firewood because it’s delivered like that and space on the truck is ultimately more expensive than the gaps in the wood and caloric value differs, anyway, whereas wood for construction or furniture use is sold by solid square metre. Either measured or calculated from weight+humidity+some wood-specific constant. Lots of eyeballing in those measures but it all averages out in the end, you loose some you get some.
I wouldn’t mind being able to give up my car and truck. But since I’m out in rural parts. It wouldn’t workout too well when it came to other needs.
I lived in rural places without a car. This is an American problem because of policy not because you are rural.
I have trailers I use haul firewood and such. I burn about 3 quarts a year.
Normal people outside of America in rural places live in communities that can arrange for firewood delivery. The only reason you need your own truck is because you don’t have any semblance of infrastructure, community or mutual aid. This is a policy choice and a failure of your culture.
@PastaCeci @Elmerfuddz
It’s even worse than THAT: those huge trucks you see nowadays are almost never used to haul anything, and the owners don’t even try to pretend anymore -they acknowledge that it’s just about giving off a manly image.
I’ve lived in a rural area and my neighbors were always happy to lend me something if I needed it. If I needed a truck to haul wood I could just borrow one, or even get it delivered.
Not the person you replied too, but US is so large, I can imagine there’s situations where policy can’t support those sorts of things. Not mention the fact that people who live in rural areas are more likely to have a culture of not wanting to interact with others and doing things on their own. Regardless, many of the policy changes to reduce car usage are really aimed at reducing car usage in dense areas rather than outright bans or the like. If these policies continue to work out in the US, the relatively few people living in rural areas with vehicles wouldn’t be problematic (in terms of causing traffic nor causing injuries/deaths)
@Habahnow @PastaCeci “I want to do it my self” says man purchasing petrol from Iraq to fuel a car manufactured by thousands of people and assembled in a dozen countries.
Anyone actually doing things by themselves isn’t concerned with car policy as they know they can’t produce a car.
They already are happy to purchase things from a store that have been delivered to that store in a collective way, what is weird about getting wood delivered to their property?
I feel this is such an dramatic and reaching response it’s almost like your intentionally being obtuse.
Some people like reducing their reliance on other people. It seems I need to emphasize the word REDUCE. I chose that word specifically instead of remove because as you pointed out, removing reliance on others is very difficult. These people sre the type of people I am referring to when I say they like to do things on their own.
The US is in no way exceptional or different than anywhere else.
Only in America is “doing things on their own” involve running a global empire to ensure their supply of oil. Without the federal government subsidizing rural people in America it would be physically impossible for them to live there, this is literally the opposite of being independent they are extremely dependent on massive globalized infrastructure.
Not everyone wants the US to run a global empire and coincidentally, the people were talking about are more likely to want the US interfering less with their lives and outside the country.
Cord of wood for anyone interested or just hasn’t visualized how much for wood a cord is
Eh, wasn’t too far off estimating that at 4 Raummeter: A cord is 3.62m2, close enough. In both cases you measure the total volume, including gaps, with quite some leeway in size of the pieces but they gotta be stacked or you get much less wood.
Common when buying firewood because it’s delivered like that and space on the truck is ultimately more expensive than the gaps in the wood and caloric value differs, anyway, whereas wood for construction or furniture use is sold by solid square metre. Either measured or calculated from weight+humidity+some wood-specific constant. Lots of eyeballing in those measures but it all averages out in the end, you loose some you get some.