You can't make this up... - eviltoast
  • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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    8 months ago

    This doesn’t bode real well 🙂

    You just have to scroll up:

    If y’all are going to post an incessant drumbeat of why Biden sucks, I’m just gonna keep pasting a few of the reasons why he doesn’t. It’s not just that it’s not his fault that the Republicans kept him from doing good things (although they did prevent him doing much more than that); even hampered by their obstruction, he still managed to among other things:

    • He took the biggest action on climate change in US history; the goal of the climate bill is to put us on track for a 40% reduction in US emissions by 2030. It’s way too late but that’s clearly not Biden’s fault since he started fighting for it basically as soon as he got into office, and managed to achieve passed legislation which is several standard deviations above the norm for “let’s ignore it until we’re underwater and on fire” US politician status quo.
    • He ordered the forgiveness of half a trillion dollars in student debt, about a third of the current total balance, and the Supreme Court told him no. He’s still managed to forgive $138 billion worth of it even against stiff Republican “no we need that money to give to Wall Street criminals pls” resistance.
    • He introduced a bill to legalize marijuana federally, which the Republicans killed in the senate.
    • He achieved the lowest unemployment in 20 years after having been handed an economy that was still digging out from the apocalypse that was 2020.

    The shitshow that is supporting Israel during its accelerating genocide, I won’t defend all that much. But the overall attempt to paint him as the same as the average Democrat is dead wrong. (And, for what it’s worth, “the DNC as a whole and Hilary Clinton specifically are tone deaf media idiots” I’ll also fully agree with.)

    All the folks that like to post memes like this haven’t had much success in trying to say any of the above isn’t true.

    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      …?

      I think I either replied to the wrong poster or you’re replying to a reply I meant for someone else.

      These are all fantastic points.

      ////goes and looks - yeah My reply was meant for: @AWistfulNihilist

      instead of replying to your excellent post with some kind of articulated premise, he says: Honestly you seem a little angry and intimidating, I wouldn’t engage with you much either.

      entirely lacking what his counterargument is, simply to tear yours down with specious commentary. your rage is entirely founded on reality and I share it. cheers.

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        8 months ago

        Hah! Okay makes perfect sense, threads be confusing for me apparently. My apologies.

        • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          keep making sense man, there’s a tankie-like-undercurrent that would happily trash biden while staying mum on the alternatives, and that big picture should scare the SHIT out of anyone - they fucking told the world what they want to do w/ project 2025, they’re already doing it by gutting the GOP now that Trump’s rule has solidified. This country can choose between imperfect psuedo-democracy or actual fucking terror and fucks like @AWistfulNihilist will tell you to stop being angry. WE SHOULD ALL BE VERY ANGRY. The fact that the media kinda shrugged when the right published their dystopian vision scares the everlasting fuck out of me.

          Stay righteous.

          • AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world
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            8 months ago

            LMAO, dude normal people don’t spend all their days on political comment threads writing paragraph long diatribes with cited sources.

            Look at what you are doing here, tagging me in an unrelated conversation, like don’t you see how that’s looks angry and intimidating? You actually seem unhinged to me now looking back.

            You know who spends all day arguing in political meme threads with a cited source for every argument they have? People who get paid with access to Lexi nexus.

            Like I see you as was more likely to be a paid employee of someone than the dude posting this meme.

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              8 months ago

              LMAO, dude normal people don’t spend all their days on political comment threads writing paragraph long diatribes with cited sources.

              Have you been on the internet before?

              • AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world
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                8 months ago

                I think it’s possible the amount of time and effort you spend on this is affecting your perspective on the minority vs the majority.

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                  8 months ago

                  I am totally unconcerned with who is majority and minority when forming my opinions. In this case it seems like a big majority of lemmy.world users agree with me, which is nifty, but it forms 0 part of why I am saying these things.

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                    8 months ago

                    Super interesting having this additional conversation with you! You are making books worth of pro Biden, anti shill posts on a largely leftist space. I would say most people who do that would get plenty of upvotes, like if a user on gab or truth made pro Trump, anti npc posts, they would collect a load of upvotes too.

                    Are you drop net fishing for upvotes?

            • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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              8 months ago

              People who get paid with access to Lexi nexus.

              You really believe this huh? my god you’re stupid. It’s lexis, you utter dolt, and no no one’s being paid to point out how obviously wrong you are. It’s a public service.

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                8 months ago

                Man you are so angry you got angry about me asking you a question then got angry about a conversation I was having with another person! Unless this is you second account, then I’m sorry!

                I’m just pointing out it’s way more likely for a person spending day after day writing incredible amounts of cited and sourced arguments to randoms online to be paid for it than the dude posting memes who’s tired of engaging I guess.

                I mean they both seem weird to me, but this is more weird.

                • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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                  8 months ago

                  Tell you what, I’ll block you now so it’s easier for you to keep all these hard threads apart. Just remember, I’ll always despise your position and shitty rhetoric ok? good.

                  • AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world
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                    8 months ago

                    Which position is that which you despise? Which position have i stated? You’re so angry to can’t even engage LMAO

      • AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        They actually did a great job of going over their points in their answer, I didn’t have anything to add! I wasn’t here to angrily argue in a meme channel.