Teyonah Parris Responds to 'The Marvels' Box Office Fizzle: "You do not have to like something, but give it a chance by actually seeing it and forming your own opinion" - eviltoast
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    8 months ago

    I am not spending movie theater prices to give a movie a chance. That’s why I only go once or twice a year for something that is guaranteed to be good.

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      8 months ago

      The title is pretty clickbaity, she’s really commenting on people sharing opinions online about the movie without seeing it.

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        That makes sense.

        The Marvels is on my watch list, so I’ll be giving it a try eventually. The slowness is more about Marvel stuff not being as entertaining for me as they used to be.

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          Same. I actually just watched it recently and didn’t think it was bad. It may not have been great but I was entertained. I did also enjoy Ms. Marvel but I also think that actress just did a great job. Gave me early awkward Spider-Man discovering his powers coming of age vibes.

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          I watched it, I liked it. You don’t need to have watched all the various shows beforehand, but you need to have a rough idea of who all 3 marvels are going into it.

          But it was a good movie that dealt with some difficult topics and handled them pretty well. Iman Vellani is excellent in it.

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      8 months ago

      Exactly, especially for a movie that you know will be on Disney plus soon. It costs me 3x for a movie ticket than the price of monthly Disney+

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      8 months ago

      I think the gist of the OP was that plenty of people were dunking on the movie without ever having actually seen it.

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    I watched it on Disney plus and it was fine but I’d be pissed if I spent the £50-60 it would have cost at the cinema.

    There’s no way I’m spending money on something just to give it a chance if I’m already indifferent about it

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      While I enjoyed it just fine that’s also one of the problems they’re facing:

      I already have Disney+. Why would I go see it in a theater when I can wait to see it at home on a service I’m already paying for?

      My own snacks, beer, and ability to pause will almost always beat having to leave the house and spend more money.

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        You can bring snacks and beer into theaters if you’re crafty enough. The real killer feature is pausing.

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            8 months ago

            The theater near me closed during covid, but previously they allowed outside food within reason. I’d done sushi or fried chicken a couple times before they shot down for good.

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        I don’t know how theaters in the UK work, but here, for two people? $50 easy.

        Imax tickets locally are $22, x2 = $44 and that’s before popcorn and drinks.

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          Are you forced to watch it in IMAX or is it possible in simple screening rooms as well?

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            18-22 before tax per ticket imax, 16 basic matinee. Doesn’t make a diff. it’s still expensive as all fuck, and the mouse has a 75% take thanks to them strong-arming theater chains.

            Maybe if Disney lowered their take they could push more tickets and give theaters more room to breathe, but here we are.

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              Just looking at normal tickets at the local theater:

              Kung Fu Panda 4 3D: $12 x2 = $24.

              Love Lies Bleeding: $9 x2 = $18.

              Dune 2: $14.75 x2 = $29.50.

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          Yeah I think the context of you buying tickets for 2 was missing from your first comment, but I completely agree.

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          Odeon sells “all you can watch” tickets for £14 a month. £17 for the “all you can watch” with premium seats updates.

          £8.50 for a single film. That’s everything as we include all taxes.

          Why are you comparing to IMAX? That’s already accepting that you are going to be paying over the odds.

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            Because somebody was confused over how movie tickets could be $50?

            I mean, don’t even get me started if you have kids to take…

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            Odeon sells “all you can watch” tickets for £14 a month. £17 for the “all you can watch” with premium seats updates.

            These are only good if you are ghe kind of person who goes to the cinema allot. This isn’t me. Even before covid I could count on 1 hand the number of times I went in a year.

            Ironically the last 2 films I saw in a cinema was captain marvel and end game. Cap being a big reason why I was already indifferent.

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            If you want to get picky my nearest odeon is at least an £22 train ride away.

            My local cinema is £18.50 each plus snacks

            Edit.

            It’s also besides the point spending any amount of money vs just watching it at home would have annoyed me

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                Like I said my nearest cinema is 18.50 a ticket. Ignoring the snacks that’s still a bawhair shy of 40 quid. And like I said I ain’t paying yhat for anything less than a film I’m hyped about beforehand.

                And again it’s kinda besides the point

                Edit you know what sod it.

                Their snacks are 13.50 for a box of popcorn and a drink. My wife and I split the popcorn and get an extra drink.

                So no the numbers ain’t silly.

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    8 months ago

    I really enjoyed The Marvels! I don’t know why people are hating on it so much… It’s much better than the last few stinkers Marvel put out lol

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      I think it was two things. First, there were a lot of people who were predisposed to hate it because they thought it was “woke” like the first Captain Marvel. You can’t ignore the insidious undertones of a lot of critics, but that doesn’t invalidate all of the criticisms.

      It wasn’t a great movie. None of the recent movies were great, but none were as bad as people made them out to be. Critics are just tired of Marvel movies. They have seen a lot of really bad superhero movies, and casual viewers don’t know differentiate between Aquaman, Madam Web, and Love and Thunder. So when the latter isn’t as good as Ragnarok, it’s “just another bad comic book movie” adding to the fatigue.

      So there exists a built-in set of anti-fans who feel validation when any of these movies is less than perfect. Deadpool will be fun, and then gird your loins for Captain America because that’s going to be a chew toy for all of the worst people.

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        I liked the first marvel film but thought this one was awful. just from memory, the singing planet made me want to jam pencils in my ears. The antagonist was inexplicably as powerful as all 3 marvels (come on, carol alone went toe-to-toe with thanos). And then she just… blew herself up. So good job, I guess? And the whole b-plot on the SWORD station with Fury and Ms Marvel’s family could have just been cut with nothing of value lost.

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          I agree the singing planet was the lowest point of the film. They could have left that out altogether, and it was the one moment in the movie where I audibly groaned lol I liked the rest of it pretty well though

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      I agree. It was a solid movie, a lot better than the recent ones that struggled.

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      Thats just it. Im fucking over Marvel.

      It could be the best thing they have done since Thanos snapped his fingers and I still wouldnt give a fuck. Its just done for so many people at this point.

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        That finger-snap could have done away with half of the greenlit projects and everyone could have saved a lot of time.

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    I stopped going to nearly all movies at the cinema. I have a good-enough 5.2.1 sound system and large television with appropriate cinema seating distance, so why should I go out if all I need to do is wait 8-12 weeks and see it on a streaming subscription? For me, the movie would need to be compelling enough to warrant a drive of about 120 miles to see it in a Dolby Cinema theater, of which only Oppenheimer met in the past year.

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    I thought it was about average for a Marvel film - which is good, because “about average” for many other franchises isn’t positive at all. Definitely doesn’t deserve the negativity.

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    When these movies don’t do well, why on earth do they keep asking the actors about it?

    The actors didn’t write a boring script. The actors didn’t direct lackluster action sequences. The actors didn’t hack together a pile of nonsense.

    If you want to drag someone, at least drag the director.

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    I mean, I understand wanting the movie you are starring in to do well, but all she is arguing is that people spent time and effort to make the movie and that people should watch it for that. Yeah well, that’s true for virtually every movie, or any work of art really.

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      She’s arguing that critics should watch it before they criticize it, out of respect for the people who spent time and effort to make it.

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      I can totally relate to that. I mean, to be in a big superhero move that you think is really good and see it not find a strong reception probably feels terrible.

      It’s not her fault. But from the movie trailers it looked badly constructed. I can’t give two hours of my time for something I’m convinced is going to be a disappointment for me.

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    Saw it in the theater, bought the 4K disc for home… it’s largely unobjectionable. It’s fine. It’s very safe. Doesn’t really do much interesting. Some of the visual effects are pretty bad, but not as bad as, say Black Panther’s big fight at the end.

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    I enjoyed it more than Barbie, which was unexpected since I had high expectations for Barbie and none for the Marvels.