Talking to normies about privacy: - eviltoast
  • d_k_bo@feddit.de
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    8 months ago

    I recently got a confused look when I said that I pay for my email provider (3€/mo, but 1€/mo would also work).

    Many people don’t realize that operating an email server creates cost and they pay with letting Google/Yahoo/… read and analyze their communication.

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        8 months ago

        How do you get around websites that force you to use whitelisted domains? I had a self hosted email for a while and I was often considered spam.

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          8 months ago

          I tell them to go fuck themselves. A more serious problem is that unless you sign up with a provider that has all of the encryption/verification stuff sorted out and a significant amount of outgoing mail, your messages will go straight to spam for everyone else.

        • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          I’ve never encountered a site which had an allow list of domain names. The hardest thing about self hosting an email server is most home ISPs will block SMTP as it’s a source of spam. Usually this requires business level ISP or an SMTP relay, both which aren’t usually free from what you’re already paying for home internet.

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            8 months ago

            My local cinema locked my account after I changed my old GM for SimpleLogin. They told me I must use “non temporary or encrypted email” to log in.

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              8 months ago

              That’s not an allowlist though, SimpleLogin was on a denylist, possible because of high rates of spam. An allow list would be if they only allowed @gmail.com for example. If you have your own domain and set it up to use Proton Mail, you shouldn’t have any problems.

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                8 months ago

                Well… More or less. They specifically told me that I needed a “public domain email” and that it couldn’t be encrypted. I read their ToS and it wasn’t written anywhere. They didn’t sound like they were too tech savvy and I had to insist before I got that answer. They are most likely just a call center with a manual to follow.

                What I bothered the most is that they allowed me to change the mail. The kept sending me (wanted) ads there and I could login into their site. They even kept charging my subscription. Until I tried to pay for extra tickets. That broke their system and got stuck. After that I couldn’t even use the tickets I already had in my account from the subscription.

                I’m not proud to admit that I finally caved and went back to my old mail for the moment. I even had to show them an ID (which at least partially defaced before) so that I could use the tickets I has already paid for

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                8 months ago

                Don’t know. Probably. I’m not in the US or UE, our laws are still dealing with that new thing called Fax Machine

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      8 months ago

      “But my mails are here in the browser!”

      “All the spam is annoying! Can you do something about it?”

      • Fluffery@lemmy.ml
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        8 months ago

        I want to do it and habe been offputting it because im worried that im gonna fuck something up and bc i dont really know how

    • Holzkohlen@feddit.de
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      8 months ago

      Same. 1€ a month for some local service, hosted in my country, which means they have to abide by EU laws. And also I can actually use their calendar with Thunderbird. Damn google calendar stopped working every update and needed an addon to work in the first place.