Talking to normies about privacy: - eviltoast
    • SorryQuick@lemmy.ca
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      8 months ago

      How do you get around websites that force you to use whitelisted domains? I had a self hosted email for a while and I was often considered spam.

      • drathvedro@lemm.ee
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        8 months ago

        I tell them to go fuck themselves. A more serious problem is that unless you sign up with a provider that has all of the encryption/verification stuff sorted out and a significant amount of outgoing mail, your messages will go straight to spam for everyone else.

      • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        8 months ago

        I’ve never encountered a site which had an allow list of domain names. The hardest thing about self hosting an email server is most home ISPs will block SMTP as it’s a source of spam. Usually this requires business level ISP or an SMTP relay, both which aren’t usually free from what you’re already paying for home internet.

        • lemmyrolinga@lemmy.ml
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          8 months ago

          My local cinema locked my account after I changed my old GM for SimpleLogin. They told me I must use “non temporary or encrypted email” to log in.

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              8 months ago

              Don’t know. Probably. I’m not in the US or UE, our laws are still dealing with that new thing called Fax Machine

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            8 months ago

            That’s not an allowlist though, SimpleLogin was on a denylist, possible because of high rates of spam. An allow list would be if they only allowed @gmail.com for example. If you have your own domain and set it up to use Proton Mail, you shouldn’t have any problems.

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              8 months ago

              Well… More or less. They specifically told me that I needed a “public domain email” and that it couldn’t be encrypted. I read their ToS and it wasn’t written anywhere. They didn’t sound like they were too tech savvy and I had to insist before I got that answer. They are most likely just a call center with a manual to follow.

              What I bothered the most is that they allowed me to change the mail. The kept sending me (wanted) ads there and I could login into their site. They even kept charging my subscription. Until I tried to pay for extra tickets. That broke their system and got stuck. After that I couldn’t even use the tickets I already had in my account from the subscription.

              I’m not proud to admit that I finally caved and went back to my old mail for the moment. I even had to show them an ID (which at least partially defaced before) so that I could use the tickets I has already paid for