No thanks China! - eviltoast
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      8 months ago

      Point taken, though it’s still an American company they could crack down upon if they prove too dangerous too.

      To be clear: I don’t want to get spied upon by anyone and I don’t use most of the American services for that reason. But obviously domestic bad actors are better than bad actors controlled by a foreign and hostile government

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        8 months ago

        It would be a lot better if Congress could pass a comprehensive privacy bill, but we lack a functioning government so I guess this is the best we can do.

        Greatest democracy in the world, right here.

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        8 months ago

        It’s crazy to me that people such as you unironically believe the position you’re saying that American companies are easier to crack down on.

        We are literally seeing concrete proof in action that domestic companies are much harder to crack down on or regulate. They are much better positioned to lobby and are currently using their immense political power to protect themselves while removing their foreign rivals. There isn’t even talk of taking action against them because they are so politically powerful.

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        8 months ago

        But obviously domestic bad actors are better than bad actors controlled by a foreign and hostile government

        How the fuck is that “obvious” to anyone who isn’t an ultra nationalist. I’m way more concerned about my domestic hostile government spying on me.

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          8 months ago

          … it’s obvious because a domestic entity is subject to local laws, and can if push comes to shove be shut down or nationalized. A foreign one is essentially out of reach.

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            8 months ago

            Lol, yeah. The American government definitely always follows the law…

            Also lol at the idea that the US government would shut down or nationalise a domestic big tech company for spying on its customers.

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              8 months ago

              Why is it contentious that a government can better curb foreign interference if it is done on a domestic platform? Regardless of how shitty the United States are that’s a simple fact and also practiced by China, only to a much greater extent.

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                8 months ago

                better curb foreign interference

                Wtf. We were talking about domestic bad actors, and now you’re going off any foreign influence?

                only to a much greater extent.

                If this is a “simple fact” I presume should easily be able to prove it, and aren’t just basing it off general xenophobia.

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                  8 months ago

                  I have no horse in the race, I’m not an American. I don’t know or really care to what extent the corrupt shithole that is America can control its own corporations due to regulatory capture. That’s your own problem to fix.

                  All I’m arguing is that from the perspective of the us government it makes perfect sense to be wary of foreign influence before its own corps.

                  Didn’t tiktok just accidentally prove the American legislator’s argument by causing mass calls into the legislators office or something? Endless amounts of people who don’t even know why they are calling, just because “tiktok said so”. Are you telling me that isn’t a disturbing implication?

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            8 months ago

            The existence of the article you’re literally commenting on directly refutes what you’re saying here. Like you’re in a thread because of news that demonstrates that the opposite of what you’re saying here is actually true.

            If you need more examples - What happened to Facebook after the Cambridge Analytica scandal? They got banned by congress right? They got shut down? The government stopped them from continuing to manipulate the public?