Pope criticised for saying Ukraine should ‘raise white flag’ and end war with Russia - eviltoast
  • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    I’m honestly curious why you feel this way

    It’s not our battle to fight. If you want to die for Ukraine, sign up. I have no desire to die for Ukraine. Most Americans don’t want to die for Ukraine. I’d resign my commission if called up for Ukraine.

    Give them weapons and let them win their own fight.

    Europe has an interest in defending Ukraine as they may be next but it’s of no interest of ours.

    • fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee
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      8 months ago

      It’s not just about Ukraine, that was clear two years ago. It’s about European stability and alliances with other democracies. If Europe falls to authoritarians the US will be isolated and vulnerable.

      Americans should support Ukraine out of self interest if nothing else.

      • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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        8 months ago

        Europe isn’t going to fall. If Russia attacks a NATO nation, then we have an obligation to get involved.

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          8 months ago

          That’s presumably true now, although certainly a lot of uncertainty surrounds it. What about in 20 years after another couple decades or Kremlin propaganda on social media?

          • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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            8 months ago

            By then, Putin will be dead. Fingers crossed, Russia will get someone better in the next round.

            Putin doesn’t have twenty years if the rumors are true. Five at the most.

            • fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee
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              8 months ago

              There are others just as bad and worse ready to replace Putin.

              Would you expect that when a mob boss dies they replace him with a benevolent leader?

    • WorseDoughnut 🍩@lemdro.id
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      8 months ago

      Interesting stance.

      So, not to throw around too many hypotheticals, but it sounds like by your logic you also would have been opposed to our participation in World War II as well?

      I’m just trying to parse your train of thought here.

      • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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        8 months ago

        We were attacked by the Japanese at Pearl Harbor. We had no choice but to enter the war. Germany declared war on America after the attack.