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    8 months ago

    You’re right, no one cares what other people use, but comparing a debloated Windows install with a proper Linux install is just dumb. A debloated Windows install will never be “perfect” or exist without Microsoft bullshit it literally depends on most of it. And I’m not bashing debloating of Windows here. It’s a fair choice if you have to use Windows and want a bit more of a lightweight experience. Personally I use Linux to use more FOSS software, tiling window managers and having in general a better idea of how my system works. And yes you’re right that that’s not for everyone but all I’m saying is that there should be an option besides amputating a shitty anti-consumer OS. At this point people are comfortable using a borked version of an OS whose main business strategy has become collection of personal data.

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        8 months ago

        You used that word in the original comment, I’m only quoting you, hence the quotes. I don’t think there is a perfect OS, but it sure as hell isn’t debloated Windows.

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        8 months ago

        Something that just has a perfect fit and full transparency. Something that is only done on Open Source Operating Systems.

        OpenBSD can be seen as perfect because the code base is very strict and securely written. Making it a nearly bug free OS. But I never used it.

        Linux Distros that have a large repository to install apps from can be seen as perfect because you cant create a chaos where you dont know how to uninstall things, as everything is installed through the same package manager. Satisfying for updating too. Something like NixOS, Gentoo or Arch.

        I dont see them as the “perfect” but Windows… even debloated. Its still a huge chaos.

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          8 months ago

          What good does a good code base do when it cant run popular games and apps like cod, valorant, siege, league of legends, destiny, adobe apps etc? On windows everything just works even though it is not transparent or open source.

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            Your windows cant run your android app, IOS app and just doesnt work at all. Hell, I just want to play God of War Ragnarök… Stupid OS. Costs so much and doesnt even run the games and apps I need.

            I hope you see yourself how foolish your agument is. “Perfect” doesn’t describe how many apps you currently want to use or love, can run. Especially when this piece of software is deeply hardcoded into an Environment or OS. Even a game developed on Windows may fail to run because the environment is off. You will be very wrong with the statement that “everything just works on Windows” when you will soon buy a specific piece of hardware to start an app because otherwise, it wont trust you.

            The topic is about a Perfect OS. Philoshophy of why it may count as Perfect. OpenBSD is an important play here as Microsofts steals its apps for its own convience like ssh and many other standards in Server use. Or the idea of an OS that knows where everything is located and can fully automate itself, etc.

            Thr developers of the games choose themselves when an app will run and when not. Or where on which platform. It is out of topic to mention that something is only perfect when you can run your my little pony game.

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                If you feel comfortable having every behaviour and text send to Microsoft. Go for it.

                But arguing that Windows should be the number one because my daddy purchased it when you were small or smth should not be the main argument. Windows is shit and terrible. Its cool that capitalism led to create binaries only for Windows but not even that did not stop Linux from being a strong competitor without tracking and spying.

                Especially, this stupid Microsoft OS is not even a one size fits all thing but tries very hard to be one.

                Linux may just work too depending on what games you play or what work you do.

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                  What the fuck are you on about saying “having every behaviour and text sent to Microsoft” and “arguing that Windows should be the number one”. He never said that, nor does anyone say that, get your head out your ass.

                  He said “Windows suits me”. That’s it, stfu.

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                    8 months ago

                    In an argument saying at the very end “but it just works for me” while arguing against it, is very stupid and still an argument that seems to be against everything because it just suits him.

                    I just explained how stupid it is to say that without thinking of the wider perspective of tracking and freedom of using that product.

                    I interpeted that its a person who dislikes everything except what he is born with. That Windows should always be used and be the number one. Just because noone said it doesn’t mean there are no meanings behind them. Get your head up.