Starbucks Stops Opposing Its Baristas’ Union - eviltoast
        • FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world
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          9 months ago

          This happens every time I throw out an opinion that’s even slightly controversial on Lemmy. Eventually, people realize they’re wrong and they can’t give me an actual counter point. So they resort to basically what’s happening now, which is derailing the conversation by refusing to elaborate when I ask in good faith what they mean. This time, it’s some apparent irony that they won’t explain, probably because it doesn’t even exist. Maybe the person doesn’t respond because they are afraid I’ll just dismantle their point again.

          I mean, I can go back and reread all of messages from the mass of dissenters and try to to rationalize whatever “irony” it is they’re talking about, but irony is subjective. And now were left with this permanent internet monument where nobody was able to actually throw out any counter arguments with real substance to them. So I guess I win?

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            You can’t seriously be this stupid, but maybe you are so I’ll throw you a bone.

            You’re “arguing” that someone’s writing is coming across poorly to the audience and hurting their point. In a thread where the voting record clearly indicates that your writing is coming off poorly to the audience.

            Didn’t think that needed such a blatant explanation, but here we are.

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              9 months ago

              You know you’ve won a discussion when the other person has resorted to calling you stupid, because they can’t think of anything worhwhile to say. That’s the best indicator that you’ve lost.

              I love it.

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                Ahahaha!

                Sure bud, go ahead and chalk this up as a win for yourself. You clearly need it.

                🤡

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              9 months ago

              Truth isn’t determined by popular vote. Just because nobody likes it, doesn’t mean it isn’t true or that it isn’t valid. They may also be downvoting because they don’t like my tone, and not because I’m wrong. Besides, this is all just stupid infighting–OP’s tonedeafness is shared by a broad group of left-leaning people and is splayed across the news media.

              When it comes to convincing right-leaning people, their sentiment is doing legitimate harm to our movement. And at the end of the day, if people refuse to acknowledge my message because of my tone, they’re the ones suffering. Conservatives really experience no downside by ignoring us, because they are happy to be classless, bigoted fools. So basically: suck it up and accept it, or continue to be ignored. Whatever.

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                9 months ago

                Truth isn’t determined by popular vote

                But opinion is, and your argument is one of opinion, not facts.

                And the prevailing opinion is that you’re not worth listening to.

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                  9 months ago

                  Lmao. So, you’re saying that conservatives are onboard with the whole BLM/minority rights thing, and that people are getting their message across no biggie? Grow up.

                  Do you want a peer reviewed paper proving that conservatives don’t agree with non-conservatives? Hilarious.

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                    You’re so worried about how people are talking and not what they are saying.

                    Do you really think right wingers really care about the politcs of respectability? They use manners as a cudgel, as you are. Seriously, you’re playing their game and creating division by saying that using the so called improper emphasis is some how bad.

                    I mean way to go on the solidarity fucko.