Republican bill would let AZ ranchers shoot and kill border-crossers on their property - eviltoast
  • TruthAintEasy@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    And that is 100% understandable despite the fact that the mere act of owning a firearm increases your chances of being involved in gun violence. What a world we live in

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      9 months ago

      Perhaps the people who own guns are more prone to violence, or live in more violent areas? Believed that stat for years, but since I started shooting, I’ve read a lot more and now question it.

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        9 months ago

        The responsable gun owners outnumber the nutters by a wide margin.

        It comes down to the nature of probability. Say there is a 5% chance of something happening. At 5% you could see 100 or more potential instances that never come to fruition, or it can happen the first time the potentiality comes into play.

        Being a responsable owner, who only would ever rely on the gun when all other options are exhausted greatly reduces the risk but it can never go all the way to zero.

        The other side of this coin is guns make it so easy to commit impulsive suicide over something that isnt going to bother you anymore in a few weeks if you actually had faced the situational depression or whatever it is. Making suicide inconvenient stops a lot of people stuck in an ‘I give up!’ headspace, and of course it does, they will give up on that too if it isnt easy to pull off.

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      9 months ago

      I’ve heard this and don’t doubt that it’s true. I just can’t help but wonder what causal effects have been determined for that.

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        9 months ago

        When you fight the robber, their bullets will hit you and your family. When the road rager draws on you first and you draw too, even if your faster his bullets might hit you or your family. Dont even get me on the cops… 5 of their 82 shots will hit you just because you informed them of your cc permit and firearm at a traffic stop.

        And say you successfully defend your life with a gun, but one of your shot’s missed and strikes a child? I couldnt live with that, it would be time to fire my last bullet.