Donald Trump appears close to invincible in the early Republican primaries and caucuses, but his strength among general election voters remains unclear.
And by not voting for Biden, how do you expect the issue you care about is going to be addressed by a Trump administration? I’m in my 50s and have never been a fan of Joe Biden or most of the “centrist” Democratic Party - but you can sure as hell believe I’ll be casting a vote for him in November.
I don’t know man. I’m the one who makes this argument. I’ll probably still vote Biden on election day, but I want to vomit at the thought of him after seeing him support this.
It’s one thing when he is just useless at getting actual shit done. “Nothing will substantially change” is one thing. But if I’m starting to break down on this, then that makes me scared that we are truly fucked
Worst part is that Biden trusts that he can do whatever he wants with supporting genocide because Trump is his opponent. It’s an extra ‘fuck you’ to all of us.
I’m 100% voting for Biden, as Trump will both destroy US democracy and put the final nail into our species dystopian coffin with both climate change and the further empowerment of the rich. But we may be fucked in the sense that I think Biden is too unpopular in a vacuum(as in separate from Trump) for most voters to get the numbers out. I deeply hope that I am wrong but each thing he does that is semi divisive, let alone everything involving Israel, it gets harder for me to believe he has the ability to engender any enthusiasm for him
I’ve gone from being unenthusiastic about Biden to actively hating/despising him. To be clear, there is absolutely no world in which I will despise him less than trump. It’s one thing to try to get people enthused, it’s another when you have to bank on fear of the worse guy.
If he had looked the other way for just a month or two, that’d still be bad but at least we could be like “well it was a complicated situation but he made the right decision”. It’s almost March and it was already an undeniable and unbearable tragedy by Halloween of last year. I think we extremely close to the point of no return.
I feel that, election is still a long ways off and all kinds of crazy bullshit is bound to happen, but my confidence in his electability is not high. As much as I dread it I’m mentally preparing myself for the worst case scenario.
Jesus even if Biden kicked the bucket, which I’m not hoping for but it is a very real possibility, Kamala doesn’t give me any more peace of mind. Trump stroking out would give me some brief respite but I think Haley would kick the shit out of Biden purely by not being him or Trump, and the GOP would still push most of their insane agenda through if they can.
Things do not look good from my perspective, and I used to be an idealist
I thought about mentioning that old age taking it course sooner than later would be good, but didn’t want to go that far. But it’s wild to think about what would happen if either (or heaven permits, both) were to do what old people do. There is part of me that hopes for it, but Harris as the main president candidate would not be a fun scenario. Right wing discourse would manage to become an even more vile sewage ditch than it is now.
In politics you pick and choose your battles. Biden is a needed stepping stone to get a true progressive in 2028. After 8 years of Obama we almost elected Bernie if it wasn’t for the corruption that happened in the primary process. 2028 is the year of progressives.
And by not voting for Biden, how do you expect the issue you care about is going to be addressed by a Trump administration? I’m in my 50s and have never been a fan of Joe Biden or most of the “centrist” Democratic Party - but you can sure as hell believe I’ll be casting a vote for him in November.
I don’t know man. I’m the one who makes this argument. I’ll probably still vote Biden on election day, but I want to vomit at the thought of him after seeing him support this.
It’s one thing when he is just useless at getting actual shit done. “Nothing will substantially change” is one thing. But if I’m starting to break down on this, then that makes me scared that we are truly fucked
Worst part is that Biden trusts that he can do whatever he wants with supporting genocide because Trump is his opponent. It’s an extra ‘fuck you’ to all of us.
I’m 100% voting for Biden, as Trump will both destroy US democracy and put the final nail into our species dystopian coffin with both climate change and the further empowerment of the rich. But we may be fucked in the sense that I think Biden is too unpopular in a vacuum(as in separate from Trump) for most voters to get the numbers out. I deeply hope that I am wrong but each thing he does that is semi divisive, let alone everything involving Israel, it gets harder for me to believe he has the ability to engender any enthusiasm for him
I’ve gone from being unenthusiastic about Biden to actively hating/despising him. To be clear, there is absolutely no world in which I will despise him less than trump. It’s one thing to try to get people enthused, it’s another when you have to bank on fear of the worse guy.
If he had looked the other way for just a month or two, that’d still be bad but at least we could be like “well it was a complicated situation but he made the right decision”. It’s almost March and it was already an undeniable and unbearable tragedy by Halloween of last year. I think we extremely close to the point of no return.
I feel that, election is still a long ways off and all kinds of crazy bullshit is bound to happen, but my confidence in his electability is not high. As much as I dread it I’m mentally preparing myself for the worst case scenario.
Jesus even if Biden kicked the bucket, which I’m not hoping for but it is a very real possibility, Kamala doesn’t give me any more peace of mind. Trump stroking out would give me some brief respite but I think Haley would kick the shit out of Biden purely by not being him or Trump, and the GOP would still push most of their insane agenda through if they can.
Things do not look good from my perspective, and I used to be an idealist
I thought about mentioning that old age taking it course sooner than later would be good, but didn’t want to go that far. But it’s wild to think about what would happen if either (or heaven permits, both) were to do what old people do. There is part of me that hopes for it, but Harris as the main president candidate would not be a fun scenario. Right wing discourse would manage to become an even more vile sewage ditch than it is now.
In politics you pick and choose your battles. Biden is a needed stepping stone to get a true progressive in 2028. After 8 years of Obama we almost elected Bernie if it wasn’t for the corruption that happened in the primary process. 2028 is the year of progressives.