What China can do is help developing nations build out infrastructure and transfer technology to these nations to help them bootstrap their domestic industries. And this is precisely what China has been doing with great success.
It’s always up to the people of the country to improve their own situation, and communism cannot be imposed on them externally. However, countries can help improve material conditions and alleviate the suffering. This is what China does.
Exactly, ultimately what China does is improve the material conditions of plundered global south countries so they’re more likely to take the revolutionary road. China learned from the URSS post-Stalin awful foreign policy.
Please refrain from arguing in bad faith. If you disagree with someone, ask questions and clarify your position. You’re in a dedicated community so don’t assume that people are just going around saying stupid things out of their asses.
Who’s actually assuming China is bringing socialism by building infrastructure? It’s about building productive forces, who else is doing that? Feels pretty insulting to call is a “China simp community”
The “mindset” of the people of these countries is a result of their current stage of development, to get out of that “mindset” they need to develop their productive forces, sure they can do it by “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps” but its going to take much longer than with the help of China.
Okay it’s obvious you have not read theory. Through the lens of historical materialism, aka the material conception of history developed with dialectics, we reached the conclusion that production is the chief determinant force of development, quantitative changes in production lead to qualitative changes in society.
The “mindset” from these underdeveloped countries is precisely a product of their underdevelopment, not the other way around like you imply. That is the reason we support China policies on developing global south infrastructure, because developing the productive forces (the instruments and people who carry on production) IS the way to develop society. It is not because we are blindly “chinese simps”.
Obligatory book recomendation, “Historical and dialectical materialism” by Stalin.
Changing material conditions to foster the development of a proletarian class is a solid theory of how to build working class power and consciousness. You might deride it as just infrastructure, but the workers who maintain and transport goods on that infrastructure (as well as the people who provide goods and services to those workers, and so on and so forth) now have more economic power and ability to organize in solidarity with each other than subsistence farmers would have against their landlords. And before anyone can build, say, a tractor factory, there must first be adequate infrastructure to supply said factory and take its finished goods to internal as well as potentially foreign markets.
That’s where China comes into the picture.
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What China can do is help developing nations build out infrastructure and transfer technology to these nations to help them bootstrap their domestic industries. And this is precisely what China has been doing with great success.
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It’s always up to the people of the country to improve their own situation, and communism cannot be imposed on them externally. However, countries can help improve material conditions and alleviate the suffering. This is what China does.
Exactly, ultimately what China does is improve the material conditions of plundered global south countries so they’re more likely to take the revolutionary road. China learned from the URSS post-Stalin awful foreign policy.
Please refrain from arguing in bad faith. If you disagree with someone, ask questions and clarify your position. You’re in a dedicated community so don’t assume that people are just going around saying stupid things out of their asses.
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Who’s actually assuming China is bringing socialism by building infrastructure? It’s about building productive forces, who else is doing that? Feels pretty insulting to call is a “China simp community”
The “mindset” of the people of these countries is a result of their current stage of development, to get out of that “mindset” they need to develop their productive forces, sure they can do it by “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps” but its going to take much longer than with the help of China.
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Okay it’s obvious you have not read theory. Through the lens of historical materialism, aka the material conception of history developed with dialectics, we reached the conclusion that production is the chief determinant force of development, quantitative changes in production lead to qualitative changes in society.
The “mindset” from these underdeveloped countries is precisely a product of their underdevelopment, not the other way around like you imply. That is the reason we support China policies on developing global south infrastructure, because developing the productive forces (the instruments and people who carry on production) IS the way to develop society. It is not because we are blindly “chinese simps”.
Obligatory book recomendation, “Historical and dialectical materialism” by Stalin.
Changing material conditions to foster the development of a proletarian class is a solid theory of how to build working class power and consciousness. You might deride it as just infrastructure, but the workers who maintain and transport goods on that infrastructure (as well as the people who provide goods and services to those workers, and so on and so forth) now have more economic power and ability to organize in solidarity with each other than subsistence farmers would have against their landlords. And before anyone can build, say, a tractor factory, there must first be adequate infrastructure to supply said factory and take its finished goods to internal as well as potentially foreign markets.
The surest sign that infrastructure is good for social and political development is that the US keeps destroying it.
Developing the productive forces is the way forward for any nation, China is providing help in that regard with mutually benefitial arrangements.