which linux phone is the most promising? - eviltoast

I want to donate to a linux phone. I believe in linux and I want a linux phone. Maybe we can use one in very few years as a normal daily driver. It’s getting closer and closer every month.

I want to donate that we get there sooner. But which project? I’m following postmarket but I’m not sure if they are the most promising. What’s your stance on this? To which project would you give your money to accellerate it?

Edit: I don’t want to buy a phone. I want to support the phone os devs. Sorry for the bad wording.

  • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
    126·
    9 months ago

    This comment is GrapheneOS propaganda making its way into Lemmy. Ban these 4chan tier advertisers.

    AOSP with rebranded features is not doing anything over AOSP or LineageOS.

    • Every app on Android is sandboxed
    • there is no immutability thing with Android
    • WebView already runs sandboxed by default on Android in general
    • energy saving is dependent on phone chips and not this scam Android distro
    • closed source hardware is the same as Intel ME/AMD PSP and not a “trusted element”
    • Android is unified, there is nothing unique about this scam distro

    GrapheneOS is pure snake oil with a disgusting sole developer that believes in pushing corporate Big Tech propaganda, harassing and witch hunting any critics, having a little social media army with sockpuppets to do this, abuses mentally challenged by hiding behind “autism” label (Louis Rossmann has a nice video), falsely claims he was swatted without giving evidence or coverage in local Canadian media and blames everyone from redditors to community mods to YouTubers and so on.

    I covered this disease for about 5 years, and it emanates from the same sewer that “security” clowns like Brad Spengler and madaidan do in Linux community. All they do is either push their bullshit solutions or push corporate Big Tech propaganda and hate any FOSS project they think will not worship them.

    https://old.reddit.com/r/privatelife/comments/ug9qnc/writeup_criticism_of_rprivacyguides_grapheneos/

    https://old.reddit.com/r/privatelife/comments/13teoo9/grapheneos_corporate_foss_loving_witch_hunting/

    • dragnet@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      42·
      9 months ago

      Almost everything you said here is false, with the exception of controversy over the developer. However, GrapeheneOS is far from a single developer project, and the former lead stepped down a little while ago.

      • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
        44·
        9 months ago

        Well, I do not know, I just back up things with a bunch of quoting and hard evidence, and on top of it I am pretty self-critical as a leftist, so I feel fairly confident in my takes.

        “Stepped down” is a big fat lie if anyone bothered to look at GitHub for GrapheneOS project, with just one person pushing commits to the project. From what I showed with DivestOS developer bullying incident, it is also proven that this is not a truly open source project, but one licensed depending on Micay’s personal whims. There is no freedom in his code licensing and can go ahead to do shitty things like falsely accusing FlorisBoard and Bromite devs of being neonazis on GitHub issue trackers.

        Edit: since this clown calls me “misinformation” spreader and asks for evidence, it is easy to look at one of the two long investigation articles I wrote, in which in share DivestOS XMPP room chat logs with Micay bullying DivestOS dev into banning me otherwise he will initiate a harassment campaign on social media against him. Similar stuff was done (calling neonazi in issue tracker) against Bromite project that used what should be open sourced code, but is not.

        • scratchandgame@lemmy.mlTiếng Việt
          22·
          8 months ago

          There is no freedom in his code licensing

          Evidence required.

          Most of them grant infinite freedom, with one requirement. (Not restrictive like *GPL.)

          Others like vanadium are restrictive under GPL

          https://github.com/GrapheneOS/hardened_malloc/commit/c3a580727a9a844da05ae4e2787a937253b09427

          You guys should not listen to TheAnonymouseJoker, this is the evidence of him spreading misinformation.

          (Please note I’m not in GrapheneOS community (banned), nor putting myself in the class of privacy racers.)

        • scratchandgame@lemmy.mlTiếng Việt
          11·
          8 months ago

          Edit: since this clown calls me “misinformation” spreader and asks for evidence, it is easy to look at one of the two long investigation articles I wrote, in which in share DivestOS XMPP room chat logs with Micay bullying DivestOS dev into banning me otherwise he will initiate a harassment campaign on social media against him.

          Don’t think that’s related

          Similar stuff was done (calling neonazi in issue tracker) against Bromite project that used what should be open sourced code, but is not.

          https://twitter.com/GrapheneOS/status/1537851090514890752

          That’s personal emotion against bromite and lead to unacceptable wording. But Micay can’t force others to remove their code if they do not violate it. nevertheless, Vanadium code is free in Linux communities’ opinion, right?? (I’d not consider that since it is GPL)

          simply: The license of vanadium is still gpl and is it free in your opinion?

    • scratchandgame@lemmy.mlTiếng Việt
      11·
      9 months ago

      harassing and witch hunting any critics

      You can criticize GrapheneOS just because Micay will care about your words. But you can’t do with something like OpenBSD because the developers are much knowledgeable and they never cared your words. They maintain an operating system for themselves and will not develop features to please users.

      You can only criticize some small project with a developer that isn’t good in communication. You are truly a petty person.

      having a little social media army with sockpuppets to do this

      No loser, the community is the army. (their quality isn’t better than any Calyx or Lineage). The developers don’t even have enough time to please user with a beautiful user interface then why they would screaming on social medias like you are doing.

      But they maintained hardened_malloc and you never take a word for it.

      • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
        22·
        9 months ago

        You can only criticize some small project with a developer that isn’t good in communication. You are truly a petty person.

        Someone who hides behing “autism” label to use actually mentally challenged as shields on internet is a fucking disgusting person. Someone who goes to lengths of inventing gospel like getting swatted, with banning people asking for some evidence by claiming everybody is a troll, with no evidence for it in almost a year, is not a good person. Or him officially instructing in his Matrix chat to witch hunt any reddit users that criticise his project by abusing JSON and RSS feeds for accounts.

        I did not know asking for evidence and making things transparent was trolling. I did not know this.

        having a little social media army with sockpuppets to do this

        No loser, the community is the army.

        Lost you on this one. You are an unreasonable BSD evangelist with incoherent rantings.

        Have a good life. May you gain wisdom. Blocking you.