Louisiana governor declares state of emergency due to police shortage - eviltoast

Louisiana GOP Gov. Jeff Landry has declared a state of emergency due to a police officer shortage.

Landry’s executive order issued Thursday lifts limits on how many new employees Louisiana sheriffs can hire and on payroll increases for their departments.

Landry, who previously had a career in law enforcement, said that police departments in the state are experiencing record-low employments “resulting in increased crime and less public safety.” As of July, sheriff’s offices statewide were down 1,800 deputies, Landry said.

    • LufyCZ@lemmy.world
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      Well, crime statistics are gonna be low if there’s no one to report crimes to

      Edit: y’all are insane, I’m not taking any sides around here, it’s just straight up a fact lol

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        It would be great if police held themselves to a standard that helped the public, then we could have someone trustworthy to report to. As it is, they have destroyed the trust they had with me by failing to do even the most minor things to address problematic cops. It is clear the “problematic” cops for me are the kind of cops they actually want.

        No thank you.

        It’s on the police to rebuild trust with us now, they’ve shown repeatedly they deserve none.

        Edit: in Louisiana I would not be surprised that having fewer cops would reduce crime. This is a state that has repeatedly fought to keep racism alive and well. I bet there are huge issues there with the police terrorizing vs. serving many communities. So … less cops on the ground sounds like more peace for a lot of people who’ve been suppressed way too much, seems like a win.

        Don’t like my opinion? Wake me up when the cops say “yeah, we fucked up and lost your trust for being gun happy cowards, we have changed the rules and we must protect and serve and any killing on our part is reviewed independently every time.”

        Edit 2:

        And within 30 minutes I run across a news story about how a major police department lies about shootings to try to further their political views: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/19/blm-march-portland-shooting

        It’s on the police. They are the problem. Not us.

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          Failing the police holding themselves to account, it would be great if someone in power did it for them.

          Right now it’s systemic failure all the way down.

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          Have you read my comment? Have you thought about what I said? Have you considered the fact that the absolute majority of crime is reported by police departments?

          Going off on a completely out of context rant that took you 5 minutes to write doesn’t do you any favors, only shows that you want to be mad, regardless of the reason.

          Go be mad where it matters.

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        It’s already well-known that data collected and reported by police departments is pretty horrid. Tons of data that SHOULD be kept and reported isn’t, and tons of policing agencies don’t want real stats getting out. Justice-related data has always been iffy.

        So what I’m saying is we shouldn’t even trust too much what we do currently know. They’re not that solid of data for most justice related datasets.

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        I think where you miss stepped was when you said “no one to report crimes to” but people will still report the same number of crimes voluntarily to a fewer number of police. Instead it would be accurate to say fewer crimes are reported by police.

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          If there isn’t anyone to write them down, they’re not getting included with the stats either.

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            That isn’t how crime reports work. Your comment got downvoted because it’s stupid.

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              Enlighten me, then.

              A quick google search shows, that crime stats are reported by law enforcement agencies. How do these agencies know about crimes? For most crimes, it’s gonna be because someone wrote a police report. Who writes police reports? The police.

              Makes perfect sense to me

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        That’s not really accurate. They still have log of calls/reports. Just not someone to deal with the problem. Dispatch just gives up if there aren’t enough officers?

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          Dispatch can’t really the crimes down, they won’t even know what exactly is going on (just rougly).

          It’s gonna officer who writes the report.

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        You can’t just come onto Lemmy and state the objective truth, it’s against social policy.

        Have an upvote.

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          I spoke against Nazis, and was downvoted to oblivion.

          It’s just the way things go.

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            I was banned from lemmy.world completely for asking about taking action against a fellow mod posting and Advocating for literal nazi policies.

            So that’s cool.

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    Is this just political theater or is this guy planning to recruit brownshirts into the police force?

    This is somehow reminiscent of how the nazis came to power, including the milktoast reporting by mainstream media. If they continue to inject their brand of fascists into the system they’ll slowly gain more and more power and win.

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      This is somehow reminiscent of how the nazis came to power,

      Yep we are in the middle of a full on fascist surge, and the reprehensibles are gathering their troops. It’s going to get really bad soon and no one seems interested in actually addressing this.

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        Yeah. Antifa. They’ve been fighting fascists since 1920s and part of their rationale for autonomous action is that the state is just notoriously bad at opposing fascism. That’s why they protest against right wing fascist gateway speakers on campuses, because fascist speech / well crafted lies is fascist recruitment. Unfortunately well meaning “liberals” like e.g. Bill Maher then always come out of the woodwork and say bla bla free speech lol.
        There is also liberal fascism that uses legal means but that’s already pretty active in the US.

        Sorry if I’m telling you something you already know :) But liberals like Bill Maher

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            Haha oops! Yeah he’s just an example though. Well I’d say they grew up and lived in a time where the economy had real growth so there were opportunists and they got wealthy - so they fundamentally don’t understand the power of fascism as material conditions deteriorate. They are stupid and that is dangerous.

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          Exactly. Some of us have been calling out fascists lies for our entire adult lives. Standing strong to attack them when they march.

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          This is why all those on the left need to be armed. You’re only doing yourself and others a disservice allowing fascist to have force multipliers.

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              Yeah it is good, the cops aint gonna help ya if the fascist pull some shit. At least if everyones armed we can make the bloodshed equal.

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                  The middle east is in a bad place largely do to empire fuckery not folks arming themselves. I simply disagree with the whole eye for an eye shit, especially when it comes to fascists. If you could defeat a fascist by shoving a thumb up your ass the world would be a far better place. Authoritarians of all stripes fascist or not can only be truly dealt with via violence or the implication there of.

                  Pacifism is simply a cowards way to claim bravery.

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          Just because we are pro 2A does not mean we have any obligation to defend you. I have no intention of risking my life or the lives of my family to save others. My firearms are there to protect me and my family.

          You have the same rights available to ensure your own safety. If you choose not to take agency for your own safety then that choice and its consequences are yours and yours alone.

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            I’m sure you’re neighbors will appreciate your well reasoned choice to ignore them and they totally won’t firebomb your house and take the guns from your toasty warm hands.

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              Your logic seems very flawed.

              1. They currently don’t know I have guns.
              2. If a situation arises where guns are needed, I am equipped to survive (hence the guns), while they are not (I.E. No guns).
              3. If it is eventually known that I have guns the remaining fearful wounded neighbors probably won’t want to attack a someone who has guns and neutralized a threat which they could not.

              But it is better to have many guns and not need them, than have no guns and need one. I would encourage my neighbors to buy guns so everyone was prepared.

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      I think this is an issue across America. My law enforcement friends comment on the recruiting issues and the reduced response times.

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        They could also be manufacturing the crisis and then taking advantage of this. Like mobbing the good cops to leave and then to be able to say “crisis!” and recruit more fascist cops.

        Ahhh I’m just kidding there are no god cops and these guys aren’t that smart ;)

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          It doesn’t take smarts to follow orders. We’re primates - monkey see, monkey do - and even an idiot will have heard of “manufactured scarcity” by this point. I wouldn’t write off the evil inherent in and enabled by the system so easily if I were you.

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            For sure, those with money can hire the smartest sociopaths to create amazing strategies. I didn’t want to outright spout off a conspiracy theory, but see if there is any investigation showing some kind of organized takeover of the police.

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          If a secret must be kept by thousands of people then it’s not a secret for very long, imo. I don’t think these efforts are concerted.

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    Maybe they should look at reducing crime from the start, instead of just attacking it after its already underway. Better schooling and other social programs, maybe? Give people people enough prosperity so that they’ll have something they want to protect, instead of having nothing to lose.

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      You are suggesting things far beyond the capacity of anyone in Louisiana’s government. Republicunts are always reactionaries and don’t even consider problems until they are in their face and then they choose to attack the symptom and not the disease.

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        Happy, healthy, educated people not scrapping for money don’t rob the gas station nearly as often. Supporting those issues decreases crime directly and would make for a scenario where less officers are needed.

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    I’m originally from Louisiana but have been away for awhile. I know that this is a problem in New Orleans, which we still visit on a regular basis, and while it was bad when I lived there, I read local news and hear from friends that it’s even worse now.

    The rest of the state - outside of a few random areas here and there, depending on trends that just affect these sorts of things regardless - I would be surprised if this is a real “crisis” everywhere else vs Landry (who is a major POS btw) just wanting to lock more people up in the private prisons that allegedly may help to fund his political ambitions.

    Landry is a garbage person who looooooves “law & order”, is a Trump sycophant, and who will allegedly make decisions based on what will “own the libs” the most. He’s trash. I cannot explain how awful this person is.

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      Even if you want to be the one good cop and arrest the bad ones, you cannot. It’s illegal to be a good person and a cop both, so no good person would want to be a cop.

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        Though not as high risk as being a logger, a fishing worker, a pilot, a roofer, a general construction worker, any job driving a car or semi, any agricultural laborer, and certain types of maintenance work, among a few others.*

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          Granted, but cops are dangerous within their own hierarchy. They have a clubhouse mentality that people definitely need to fit in or death could be an outcome.

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    The shortage is real despite how he’s trying to play political theater with it.

    Washed up cops like to set up shop in Louisiana thinking no one will see their backgrounds and then get fired once their terrible demeanor is exposed. Some Police Chiefs are also corrupt so it’s hard for them to keep the good workers.

    And all of that is before some of them get arrested for crimes themselves. It’s a shit show.