Arch but Debian based - eviltoast

I’m looking for a Debian based distro that has the same install process as arch. I hate bloated distros and haven’t been able to find anything yet. Anyone know of a distro like this?

  • JASN_DE@lemmy.world
    832·
    9 months ago

    I’m looking for a Debian based distro

    I hate bloated distros

    So… Debian?

  • banazir@lemmy.ml
    491·
    9 months ago

    Kind of sounds like you just want Debian with netinst image and then do an Expert install. Afterwards you might want to migrate repos to sid. Good luck!

  • winety@lemmy.zipEnglish
    492·
    9 months ago
    1. download the Netinst ISO
    2. install Debian without any GUI or “bloat”
    3. ???
    4. profit
    • Felix@lemmy.mlOP
      114·
      9 months ago

      Debian itself never works. It fails to install a bootloader no matter what iso I use.

      • yianiris@kafeneio.social
        11·
        9 months ago

        I’d be the last person on earth to defend debian or systemd-boot that has turned linux into a garage project, but could it be that you are booting the image in legacy/bios mode and attempt an EFI installation? This is hackish to do since /sys/…/efi… doesn’t exist.

        If you insure you are booting in efi mode then it should work out. If not chroot into the installation and follow the procedure of installing the bootloader manually.

        @potentiallynotfelix @winety

    • Felix@lemmy.mlOP
      321·
      9 months ago

      Thanks you, finally a non removed who doesn’t understand that arch isn’t installed through calamares or debian-install

      • hendrik@lemmy.ml
        5·
        9 months ago

        Glad I could contribute something.

        If you want more tips: Choose the channel that suites you best. If you like arch, you probably like rolling distros. You could skip the stable channel and go for testing or unstable and that’d provide you with an experience alike a rolling release model. That isn’t officially supported… Debian focuses on getting security patches into stable, not necessarily the other channels. That’s why only stable is recommended. However, the other ones work great and Debian usually do a good job with keeping them well-maintained, too. I run testing on my laptop and I like it.

        (Edit: And Debian should have a good amount of customizability… You can (re-)configure the package manager not to install recommended or suggested packages, and you can also skip the manpages and documentation if all you want is a small system.)

  • Baut [she/her] auf.@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    21·
    9 months ago

    You can install Debian like Arch. Look at debootstrap and/or the Debian manual under manual installation. It’s actually a pretty streamlined process, especially if you’re coming from Arch.

    • lordnikon@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      9 months ago

      honestly doing a minimal install no DE just base utilities and a shell and apt is the way to go. Just install the packages you want and go from there. I also recommend Sid for that arch feel but be sure to install apt-listchanges and apt-listbugs to help with upgrades.

      • acockworkorange@mander.xyz
        2·
        9 months ago

        I recommend installing aptitude for a nice ncurses interface and then browsing the metapackages tree for an easier time installing stuff. You can configure aptitude on whether you want it to install recommended or suggested packages, so if you want the minimal, just disable both.

        Aptitude also has great visual handling of orphaned dependencies.

  • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
    202·
    9 months ago

    While it looks like OP got it sorted out, all their comments suggest they’re running into complex issues that are solved by the “bloat” software they’re trying to avoid.

    Feels like they’ll quickly proclaim “Linux doesn’t work” and go back to Windows.

    Pro-tip OP: The 800mb of packages that get installed alongside your first KDE or Gnome software is not “bloat”, they’ll be common libraries you dodged installing when you gave yourself an X11 server with no DE

    • Felix@lemmy.mlOP
      312·
      9 months ago

      Dude are you joking? I don’t need a graphical file manager for example. That’s bloat. If not having a graphical file manager causes nvidia drivers to not work, there’s a major issue. I don’t want anything but a terminal and a browser.

      • lemmyvore@feddit.nlEnglish
        3·
        9 months ago

        Look into .xinitrc and startx. You can run a standalone window manager and you can use xbindkeys to define keyboard shortcuts to launch a terminal or other apps, and you can also bind keys to wmctrl actions or run autokey in the background for the more fancy window and workspace operations. (if the window manager doesn’t support them).

        If you want a system tray, application menu and so on there are hybrid window managers like OpenBox that double as a super-lightweight DE.

  • ScottE@lemm.ee
    141·
    9 months ago

    Just install arch if that’s what you want.

    Otherwise, RTFM - debootstrap.

  • Pantherina@feddit.de
    7·
    9 months ago

    You will want the argument --no-install-recommends

    Also I advise to

    • use sid
    • use BTRFS
    • use pipewire, systemd, Wayland
    • use Flatpaks for user apps

    That way you will have a modern Distro with updated and not breaking apps with often official support, and the base is Debian but not thaaat Debian.

  • scratchandgame@lemmy.mlTiếng Việt
    4·
    9 months ago

    software should work independent of any distro

    and you should know how to use your package manager, if you can’t, it should be the package manager’s issue: too complex