A crowd set fire to a driverless Waymo taxi in San Francisco, as tensions about driverless tech grow - eviltoast
  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I think you’re missing the end goal here, which is having everyone in a driverless car. The taxis are a first step in that direction. It will by no means stop there.

    There was a reason why GM was investing so heavily in Cruise (until a woman got dragged under a Cruise car in SF during a crash). They weren’t doing it in the hopes people would transition to public transit.

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      9 months ago

      I’m not missing the end goal, I just don’t think GM will pull back if we decide to ban driverless cars or boycott them.

      We both want 100% public transport but that’s beside the point, the event happened because the car was driverless, not because it wasn’t a bus.

      If someone was proposing to ban all cars in San Francisco, I’m all for it but that isn’t really what’s happening. But for now, I’ll take driverless cars even if it only gets rid of a couple privately owned ones.

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        9 months ago

        You’re right. It isn’t what’s happening and I am proposing a ban on personal transport in San Francisco (and other major metropolitan areas with decent public transportation systems).

        I also don’t see this as a path to that happening. And that should be the goal.

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      9 months ago

      It’s going to weird when people are choosing a vehicle based on whether it will decide to drive you off the cliff, or just plow through the pedestrian. There will be a Jerryrigeverything who buys cars to test their self driving to destruction.

      Given how little liability auto manufactures have due to the responsibility put on the driver, I don’t see why they would be pushing for self driving. Unless there’s a single unified AI that makes the same driving decisions for every car, which I don’t think is a good thing, the manufactures will then take the responsibility for accidents involving their proprietary driving software.

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        9 months ago

        Unless there’s a single unified AI that makes the same driving decisions for every car, which I don’t think is a good thing

        Honestly? I don’t know that it would be the worst thing, especially on busy highways and streets, to have the same AI controlling all of the traffic instead of individual self-driving cars from individual brands, all with different software and hardware.

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      9 months ago

      The obvious intent is that driverless cars would be a new model of ownership. Where you buy the car, then pay a yearly flat subscription to use driverless features.

      Step 2 would be an insurance reduction for removing manual driving, then they could start per-mile system like ISP and cell phone providers do per gigabyte of data used.