Nato chief says Donald Trump comments 'undermine all of our security' - eviltoast
  • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    Trump is not saying this to encourage russia to attack Nato

    Literally in the Trump quote:

    in fact I would encourage them to do whatever they want.

    • jas0n@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      You see, Trump never means what he says. It’s all 5d chess and you don’t know how to interpret all that vagueness.

    • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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      9 months ago

      To understand why it is not a call for russia to attack nato you must know the context. In the clip Trump mentions Nato being broken before he “fixed” it. In 2016 only 5 countries met the minimum nato obligations (US, UK, Greece, estonia, Poland).

      Trump recalls a conversation he had with a Nato leader. He says the leader asked him “if we dont pay are you still going to protect us” trump replied “absolutely not”. This is a huge shock to the nato leaders as America has always asked them to pay but never forced their hand like this. They ask again “if we dont pay and we are attacked by Russia will you still protect us?” then you get the harsher response from trump.

      No I would not protect you, in fact I would encourage them to do whatever they want. You gotta pay. full quote since you left out the important part.

      Europe is vulnerable to an attack from Russia they know this. They MUST meet their alliance obligations to ensure their security its that simple. Trump is telling the European leader this to scare them into meeting their obligations. Russia didnt hear about this until trump mentioned it at his rally a few days ago. After all this happened years ago the Nato contribution increased and states meeting their obligation goes from 5 to 11.

      Please explain to me how that is trump inviting war? Trump isnt asking Nato to freeload. He is asking them to meet their obligations and remain in the alliance with the US.

      • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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        9 months ago

        Please explain to me how that is trump inviting war?

        Sure, when Trump says:

        I would encourage them to do whatever they want

        “Them” is Russia, and “whatever they want” is to invade. So Trump is saying “I would encourage {Russia] to [Invade].”

        I’m not going along with your “he doesn’t mean what he says” BS. He is running for government office, if he doesn’t mean what he’s saying then he shouldn’t say it. I’m not going to play “guess what the politician really means when they say something. Maybe they mean the opposite. who knows?”