Alternative Facts - eviltoast

Ukrainians are killed, Palestinians die

  • Draghetta@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    If you’re American you have to vote for either Trump or Biden though, you don’t have the luxury of voting neither… in a two party system an abstention equals a vote for the winner.

    Yeah, Biden funds a genocide in Palestine. Trump would do the same (he did move the embassy to Jerusalem…) plus ALSO aiding the genocide in Ukraine as he is already doing with his aid cockblock policy.

    There are times when the genocide supporter is the lesser evil. I don’t envy your country one bit.

    • centof@lemm.ee
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      9 months ago

      You are right about supporting the lesser evil. Even so not voting literally does not tally your vote for any candidate. In a metaphoric sense, it could be interpreted that way by media outlets and others with a political agenda.

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        9 months ago

        Yeah of course it does not actually tally +1.

        But in a two party system the winner is decided by the difference between the two parties’ votes, so if A gets 20 and B gets 25 those 5 votes were decisive.

        Not voting, in this system, equals to voting for B: had you voted for A, the advantage would have been 4 instead of 5. By not voting as opposed to voting A, the advantage is 5 rather than 4 - that is, by not voting you effectively gave one vote of advantage to B.

        Again, not because your abstinence was actually counted for B, but because your lack of vote helped the advantage grow bigger. If Trump wins it will be also because of you.

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        9 months ago

        That’s cope though… as they are not going to get nearly enough votes to win, those candidates are irrelevant. It’s stupid but that is how it is. A vote for them is functionally speaking the same as not voting. Like yeah sure you’ll have “sent a message”, but it’s still a virtual vote for the winner. And you don’t get to complain about him: you could have helped by voting for the other one.

        It sucks that you have to choose the lesser of only two evils (assuming your vote even counts, because lol electoral college) but that is the American way.

        • HACKthePRISONS@kolektiva.social
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          9 months ago

          >you’ll have “sent a message”

          the only message sent by a vote is “this is who I want to win”. if you want the genocide enablers to win, you can vote for them. if you want the law and order candidates to win, vote for them.

        • HACKthePRISONS@kolektiva.social
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          9 months ago

          a vote for them is not functionally the same as not-voting. it counts for them. suggesting it doesn’t is just more election misinformation.

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              9 months ago

              > no one is going to care about what you think down the road when you’re complaining about a problem you did nothing to stop.

              i do a lot more than vote, but voting against genocide isn’t doing “nothing” to stop it.

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                    9 months ago

                    You’ve made it quite a point to speak so much about something you know so little about. It’s no wonder people laugh at you as much as they do. I sincerely hope you have alt accounts that are less embarrassing than this one.