Why do we even have to have this conversation in the first place - eviltoast
  • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    worship

    See this is the shit that supports horseshoe theory. Far-left and far-right, you’re all about idolarity and worship and dictatorships and changing the world by force. Moderates don’t believe in that shit. We don’t worship anyone. You’re just mad because your far right counterparts have a strongman to rally around and you currently don’t. But you do crave one.

    Not trusting the MSM because they’re a billionaire-owned tool of the oppressive establishment that often lies to further such narratives as “the more cops the less crime” and “Israel’s just defending itself” ≠ not trusting them because they don’t lie ENOUGH like the MAGA cult.

    It’s not about the “why”, it’s about the end result. You’ve been manipulated to be paranoid and angry, just like them. Of course, the methods of manipulation were a little different but you ended up in the same place.

    (and let me give a disclaimer here: “both sides” arguments is just as terrible as your current left-wing MAGA shit. The far left like you are a sliver of the Democrats, but what I call the far right are actually in control of the Republicans. You spout absurd shit and it’s frustrating but at the end of the day largely irrelevant. MAGA spouts absurd shit and it’s frightening, because they have the power to turn it into absurd actions. Just because I equate the far right and far left in terms of stupidity and susceptibility to propaganda, does not mean I equate them in terms of dangerousness. Even worst case scenario, the average tankie’s utopia is better than the average MAGA utopia.)

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      See this is the shit that supports horseshoe theory. Far-left and far-right, you’re all about idolarity and worship and dictatorships and changing the world by force. Moderates don’t believe in that shit. We don’t worship anyone. You’re just mad because your far right counterparts have a strongman to rally around and you currently don’t. But you do crave one.

      Someone never heard of the authoritarianism axis of the political compass…

      You’re pretty close when it comes to tankies, who are far left authoritarians, but less authoritarian people exist on the left too.

      Personally my stance vary from social democrat to almost anarchist depending on the subject, but always significantly less authoritarian than the DNC and the so-called moderates (actually center-right to right wing) who have no ideology except “my team good, everyone else other team”.

      I’m a pacifist, I know that ACAB and I believe that the main purpose of government is to protect people from the tyranny of the powerful. So no, I don’t want “my side” to have a fucking strawman committing atrocities. Biden actively supporting some of those is plenty bad enough.

      You’ve been manipulated to be paranoid and angry, just like them. Of course, the methods of manipulation were a little different but you ended up in the same place.

      Another steaming pile of horse shoe horse shit.

      I’m not paranoid and I’m not angry about anywhere near the same things as the fascists are. That you can’t see two people angry at the same person without automatically assuming that their opinions and reasons for having them are both identical, that’s a you being an idiot problem.

      “both sides” arguments is just as terrible as your current left-wing MAGA shit.

      Complaining about both sidesism being terrible while literally says that both of the sides that disagree with you are identical must be some kind of record! Surely you must be putting me on! Nobody can have THAT little self-awareness! 🤦

      Anyways, I’ve officially had enough of your delusions. Have the day you deserve.

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        9 months ago

        Forgot to add: lack of ability to comprehend nuance. Another similarity between you and MAGA.

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          9 months ago

          Again with the projection! Do you have any idea how much nuance you have to miss in order to mistake an anti-authoritharian pacifist with a fascist?

          Clearly not, since you’re doing it while insisting that I’M the weird one.

          Now leave me alone and have the day you deserve.