Why do we even have to have this conversation in the first place - eviltoast
  • protist@mander.xyz
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    9 months ago

    How do you propose Biden stop shale drillers on private property in Texas and New Mexico? Well he signed a massive investment in green energy and infrastructure that can help renewable technologies compete more effectively with fossil fuels. Should more immediate and drastic action happen? I believe so, but Biden can’t do that without a Congress that agrees. Elect more Democrats to Congress

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      9 months ago

      Weird how when there’s a Conservative in charge they have unlimited power to ruin the country, but the dems hands are so tied, he couldn’t possibly have done anything to stop the big bad oil companies.

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        9 months ago

        Weird how it’s easier to break something than to build something

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            9 months ago

            He really can’t. Breaking the fossil fuel industry would require building a regulatory framework to do so, which would require congressional action. On the other hand, directing federal agencies to stop enforcing existing regulations and making internal decisions to undermine federal oversight of industry (aka breaking the regulatory framework) is much easier.

            Also, when gas prices go up people get angry

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              9 months ago

              So instead of fighting against the system that’s actively destroying the environment, you decide to advocate for business as usual.

              When the lesser of two evils is still an apocalypse, it’s time to change the system.

            • Sybil@lemmy.world
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              9 months ago

              Breaking the fossil fuel industry would require building a regulatory framework to do so,

              no, he can charge them with espionage, seize their assets, and make them fight it in a fisa court where they can’t see the evidence.

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            9 months ago

            How? Hawaii has a state constitution backing their decision. What can the EPA do? Say they Regulate climate emissions and ban oil extraction tomorrow. What happens? Texas and the other red oil producing states just fall in line? They say “gosh, I guess they can tell us what to do even though my boys on the cout said they can’t, oh well, we lose”

            Of course not. Blue states tend to not need to be told what to do and are often the ones making the standards that are later imposed by the EPA nationally (see CARB standards still regulating MPG for example). So the EPA will be telling red states what to do, with no authority to do so and you seriously think they will just…do it? In what universe do you live, because I’d sure like to be there.

            • HACKthePRISONS@kolektiva.social
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              9 months ago

              >So the EPA will be telling red states what to do, with no authority to do so and you seriously think they will just…do it?

              not red states. people. they will have to shell out for lawyers, and get a court date, and until then, they won’t be polluting.

              but lets say that biden can’t find anyone at the epa willing to defy the impotent court: he could just use his national security powers.

              but he won’t because he doesn’t actually care to fix things.

                • Nudding@lemmy.world
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                  9 months ago

                  Trump is a symptom of your disgusting consumerist, rugged individual, fuck you i got mine culture. The pinnacle of 250 years of capitalism in action.

                  He is the epitome of what it means to be American. Fat, ignorant, born on third base but thinks home runs are easy. And most of all, proud of all of it.

                  If half of your country supports trump, getting rid of trump won’t fix the problem. Business as usual neoliberalism won’t fix the problem.