How Russia became far right? - eviltoast

Over 100 years ago, Russia became core of USSR and the pioneer of international struggle for workers’ liberation, poverty lifting, enlightenment, scientific progress and propagation of socialism and communism.

Now – in my humble and maybe biased by liberal propaganda view – Russia is one of the most reactionary, conservative, backward-looking, clerical country. Please excuse me posting some liberal, imperialist shit here, but seems that Kremlin officially admits going far-right: https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/kremlin-finally-puts-together-ideology

Speaking locally, there seems to be evidence that Polish far-right party PiS (Law and Justice) is backed by Kremlin as well as the extremely influential priest, Tadeusz Rydzyk, founder and director of the ultra-catholic, conservative Radio Maryja station has/had ties with Polish and Russian security services before the end of People’s Republic of Poland and USSR (sic!). I have some generally available videos, but in Polish, sadly.

Could you tell me how far this is true? If so, what purpose had the late communist states and today’s Russia in spreading far-right propaganda? WTF went wrong?

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    Edit: Patriotic education is supported by the communist party, self-hating Russians are too common. Textbooks made by George Soros for years have been teaching kids to hate the country. Students burn their passports, 1/3 students want to leave the country. Putin only change this in 2023 when abandoned by the west. Russian, and Soviet history will no longer be villainised. Russia is nothing like the Western portrayal of it, Z flags and Russian jingoism are far far more common in Serbia than in Russia. Compare Djokovic’s fans to the anti-war Medvedev, Rublev etc.

    As Meduza has previously reported, this course was invented by the Russian authorities after the beginning of the full-scale war to explain to students “where Russia is going.” Meduza sources close to the Kremlin have pointed out that this “ideological” course is essentially a direct equivalent of the “scientific communism” taught in Soviet-era universities.

    Russia being far right:

    Zhirinovsky was the leader of the most right wing faction in the Russian duma and the 2nd political party in the Soviet Union (Liberal Democratic Party of the Soviet Union) before he died in 2022 and I would only describe him as centre-right, he supported the August coup by Soviet hardliners against Gorbachev. The real right-wing, Russian monarchists, were against this.

    Putin has transformed the country from what it was in 1999, taking back a lot of power.

    The communist party is the largest one in the world that’s not in power. Representing 10-20% of the population, they’ve only become stronger as the country recognizes China’s success.

    Lots of far-right parties/groups are banned, not just nazi ones, imperial ones too.

    On LGBT he said that they should be able to represent themselves. This is the opposite of what a far-right person would have said. He said this when asked by a Serb weather being LGBT is mandatory for winning western competitions.

    But I’ll tell you something unexpected. They too – these topics and these people – have the right to win, show and tell, because this is also part of society. This is also what people live by. It’s bad if they just win all sorts of competitions, that’s of no use.

    I believe if China can deal with Israel, then Russia should be allowed to find whatever allies they want. PIS isn’t committing genocide.

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      This says that it is not so bad – but still Russia cannot be called a communist country nor going in that direction. With using conservative rhetorics, references to tradition, history and religion, it – at least officially – presents itself as a far right country. Look at their coat of arms – it even looks like a tsarist one. Many – if not most – of European conservatives think of Russia as of «the last bastion of Christianity and European civilization». Far right scums like Le Pen was very supportive for Putin. You know there is much more. For me all such things looks plainly reactionary.

      Russia should be allowed to find whatever allies they want

      Russia is not only allowed, but it has means to enforce it. I am rather concerned that ideologically, morally and mentally Russia is far, far inferior to the early USSR. And this trend affects other countries of the Eastern Block. I live in Poland, which is divided by liberals and ultra-catholic far-rights, most probably backed by Kremlin. The country is literally divided – I can not talk with my father, since he belongs to PiS supporters and acts like a member of a sect. This is not a country I want to live in.

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        Many – if not most – of European conservatives think of Russia as of «the last bastion of Christianity and European civilization». Far right scums like Le Pen was very supportive for Putin.

        For exactly the same reason why some fascists support China or DPRK - they believe into all the western propaganda about these countries and their “atrocities” and like them

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        I am rather concerned that ideologically, morally and mentally Russia is far, far inferior to the early USSR.

        It is, but considering how the rest fallen it’s still like the poster about the “olbrzym i zapluty karzeł reakcji” only the giant is far smaller.

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      A comment to the edited part:

      Meduza sources close to the Kremlin have pointed out that this “ideological” course is essentially a direct equivalent of the “scientific communism” taught in Soviet-era universities.

      Official ideological line may be very different to the actually followed. About the Soviet history: yes, it’s fight against nazism should be proclaimed and praised, as well as great social and scientific achievements of the whole USSR and allied countries. But when patriotism turns into nationalism, it should be despised. «The working men have no country.» True socialists – while enforced to act within some existing country – know that the goal is to lift all national, racial, sexual and other barriers and put the idea of the nation into a trash.

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        “Our secret weapon is nationalism. To have nationhood, which is a sign of maturity, is greater than any weapons in the world.” - Uncle Ho (Chi Minh)

        Unfortunately comrade, I need to disagree. Nationalism is not inherently and automatically bad. Yes, rightist nationalism is bad and should be stomped out, but when a people’s nationhood, that is, their identity as a people, is being actively suppressed by imperial forces, then nationalism is important and necessary to save the cultural artefacts those people hold dear.

        I’ll refer you to comrade Luna Oi for a far superior, more nuanced interpretation than I can provide:

        https://youtu.be/CkbSYIyzmF0?si=PfwMfAbA74s-t0Mx

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          We will disagree here comrade. While nationalism may offer short-term advantages (maybe justified during a war), it is almost a referencing to some basic, tribal instincts, so it cannot be considered as a long-term goal for a rational, conscious, healthy communist society. I believe this is one of causes of slowly rotting of USSR.