Biden repeatedly interrupted by pro-Palestinian protesters at abortion rights rally - eviltoast
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      Feelings aside, Biden is objectively one of the most, if not the most, progressive President we’ve had in modern history.

      [Bernie] Sanders said that some of the early goals that the Biden administration and a Democratic Congress were able to accomplish in the first two years of Biden’s presidency were progressive victories, including the $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan.

      “I think the American Rescue Plan that we passed early in his agenda, in the midst of the terrible pandemic, the economic collapse, was, in fact, one of the most significant pieces of legislation for the working class in this country, in the modern history of America,” Sanders said.

      https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/3865355-sanders-biden-a-more-progressive-president-than-he-was-as-senator/

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            No, I know who you’re responding to, but pointing out that Biden is marginally more left-leaning than the guy who repealed Glass-Steagall and the guy who created the assassination-robot squad doesn’t really undermine his point. FDR’s party gutted the New Deal, Biden being slightly more pro-union doesn’t really mean much to the overall trend.

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              For all of his progressive economic accomplishments, FDR also interned in the Japanese and allowed for the creation of one of the world’s worst toxic waste sites.

              The point being that I don’t expect inhuman levels of perfection for my political leaders, and I don’t think you should either. There was much more to FDR’s administration than the New Deal, and when it comes the historical comparison Biden may have fallen short on matching the New Deal (although objectively he passed the biggest infrastructure and progressive economics bill since the New Deal), he has an undeniably better track record than FDR in terms of human rights, civil rights and environmental protection. There’s really no comparison.

              (FWIW, it’s also worth noting that FDR had a significantly stronger Democratic backing in congress, with IIRC, a large supermajority in the Senate for multiple years. Historical political context is also important.)

              Like it or not, It’s just a point of fact that Biden is the most progressive president we’ve had in at least 50 years, if not a century, when looking at the entirety of his record so far.

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                he has an undeniably better track record than FDR in terms of human rights, civil rights and environmental protection. There’s really no comparison.

                Biden is currently supporting the Palestinian genocide as we speak.

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                  The world’s first two-way genocide 🙄

                  The Day of Judgment will not come until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say, ‘O Muslim, O servant of God, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.’ Only the Gharkad tree would not do that, because it is one of the trees of the Jews

                  Hamas Founding Charter, Article VII, 1988
                  https://sunnah.com/muslim:2922

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                    10 months ago

                    A) Glad you were eventually able to edit your post to more than a single emoji. B) You know that Palestinians aren’t Hamas, right? C) You understand that it’s not a, “two-way genocide,” if only side can actually commit genocide, right? Hamas may want to kill evey Jew, but they’ve only managed to kill 1,200 people in their initial attack and 210 soldiers since then. Meanwhile, Israel has killed a minimum of 25,000 people, and by there own estimates only 9,000 of them were militants. (Also, 9,000 is a number the IDF gave without any evidence, so it’s probably a gross overestimate.)

                    There’s a reason that, of the two groups, only the Israeli government is being accused of genocide in the ICJ, and it’s not because the international community likes Hamas. Genocide isn’t just a declaration in a charter, it is a specific series of actions against an ethnic group, and it sure seems like Israel is committing those actions.