He'll be the death of us all. - eviltoast

It’s not like any candidate was actually good but they did pick the worst one.

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    It’s too late.

    Fascism isn’t something on the horizon. Look at what is happening in Idaho. Within a year or two half of the US states will have criminalized abortion, and all you hear from federal legislators is how important it is that we shovel more money we don’t have into other countries’ wars.

    It’s over.

    The only power you or I have left is in our immediate local communities, where you can still accomplish the general good.

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      10 months ago

      TIL fascism is when abortion is banned, and not when systems are put in place to enforce single party rule and violent suppression of political dissent.

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          10 months ago

          Not really, no.

          It can be, but fascism is extremely malleable as a template and can absolutely not give a shit about abortion (or even actively encourage/enforce it like china during the one child policy) or any other specific individual freedom.

          The ones it really cares about are the ones that allow you to dissent and work against the government, so speech and association.

          Fascism is fundamentally authoritarian first; specific social and economic prescriptions are tuned as the party/dictator deem necessary.

          That’s how you can have red fascism like China and Stalinist Russia, and capitalist fascism like Pinochet’s Chile.

          The US is never going to properly address its issues until it properly identifies them.

          What you’re dealing with is not fascism imposed from the top down, it’s puritanism endorsed at all strata of society by a significant amount of people who genuinely co-sign it, either because they don’t understand the repercussions or because they genuinely don’t care.

          If you’re incapable of understanding that people in those states genuinely support banning abortion, for example, and are not actually being oppressed by a minority of powerful people who are denying them their rights, but are instead actively signing away those rights for the minority who want to keep them, you’re never going to be able to effectively change this state of affairs.

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            10 months ago

            Sad to see you got some downvotes, your takes here are very technically correct and aware of the big picture and actual facts of the mechanisms.

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              10 months ago

              People hate it when they can’t just abuse terms to label people they don’t like, unfortunately.

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                10 months ago

                My surviving jewish family were freed from a nazi death camp by the people you call fascists. Equating the two is holocaust trivialization and antisemitic. I literally link you to a well known mainstream Jewish historian and activist about this issue. Do you think David Katz is a “tankie”?

                You call me scum equivalent to a nazi in response. Have words lost all meaning to you?

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                    10 months ago

                    Oh my god there was antisemitism in the USSR, even among some leadership! Several doctors got killed!

                    You’re right, a few incidences of antisemitism are the same as the holocaust, or the pogroms that the pre-soviet monarchy backed by western liberal democracies engaged in. Or the antisemitism in the post soviet union liberal democracies. /s

                    You are a deeply unserious person. And a holocaust trivializer if it “owns the tankies” apparently. Great priorities.

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          10 months ago

          Nazi Germany actually had a more liberal view of abortion than the laws that a lot of Republican states are now passing (for reasons that you can probably imagine, but still)

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            10 months ago

            Nazi Germany isn’t the only form of fascism, and had other individual freedoms even more restricted. Nazi Germany was a far-right, reactionary state that violently suppressed Workers and stripped their freedoms, just like American conservatives are attempting to do and are working towards.

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            10 months ago

            How liberal was their view of social equality in regards to varying races?

            You DO see how disingenuous your example is, right?