Two Navy SEALS Presumed Dead in Raid on Ship Carrying Iranian-Supplied Weapons - eviltoast
    • gmtom@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      For a guy called mechanical jester you seem to take things awfully seriously.

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        10 months ago

        Mocking SpecOps who are KIA is something generally off limits for me. I handed over a hundred of our flags to surviving family so I’m humor dysfunctional in that area. However… jokes? Okay that’s kinda funny. Best if served from combat vets I think. I regret making a fuss. Dysfunctional.

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          10 months ago

          From my experience with soldiers they probablywould have made worse jokes/ mockings about anything and everything including other soldiers and people they have killed.

          And since they also died attacking a civilian vessel I don’t feel the need to show any respect in the first place.

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            10 months ago

            “The official said crew on the dhow, which did not have a country flag, were planning to transfer the missile parts, including warheads and engines, to another boat off the coast of Somalia.”

            Looks like “Finding Out” to me.

            The gallows humor is real. Coping mechanisms for traumatic jobs is real. Ever hear civilian firefighters joke around? Same. Military firefighters and combat medics probably have the darkest humor. We’ve all collectively decided we want people to be really good at killing people and blowing shit up so other people don’t kill out people and blow our shit up.

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            Anything carrying weapons isn’t “civilian”, it’s a military supply ship.

            Imagine thinking just because it’s not painted gray and equipped with guns that it isn’t for a military use case.

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              10 months ago

              Yeah that’s nit how that works at all.

              Civilian shipping is still civilian shipping even when they are carrying engines for war planes. And I 1,000,000% gaurantee you wouldn’t be saying that same shit if it was Ansar Allah attacking weapons shipments heading to Israel.

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                10 months ago

                So there were no weapons and munitions on this ship? No drones or explosives? Just innocent little airplane engines?

                I don’t give a shit about Israel, but pretending that supplying the enemy war machine with weapons can be classified as civilian because of the ship you’re putting those weapons on is a farce.

                I would absolutely expect those groups to attack weapons shipments, why the fuck wouldn’t they? Also, attack? Two Navy Seals sent in to sieze control and you want to pretend that’s the same thing as bombarding a ship with explosives? Lol fucking biased as shit. Guarantee if they’d been successful you’d see fewer civilian casualties than any operation performed by Hamas or Islamic Jihad.

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                  10 months ago

                  You can’t see the forest for the trees.

                  Literally everything you said applies to Ansar Allah, they have target civilian vessels supplying arms to Israel, they have boarded vessels to divert them away from Israel, which has been seen as an “attack on civilian vessels” by the west and the media.

                  You’re getting incredulous, but only because I’m daring to challenge the world view you’ve been fed your entire life. And I know you don’t /think/ You’re a victim of propaganda and you’ll deny it, maybe claim that I’m actually the one that’s been tricked or whatever. I understand I was the same way once. But when you start actively trying to distance yourself from your preconceived biases it becomes easier to see things in a different light to the “we are the good guys and any that disagrees is a bad guy” mindset.

                  Guarantee if they’d been successful you’d see fewer civilian casualties than any operation performed by Hamas or Islamic Jihad.

                  And that makes it okay? That the better trained militants with better equipment could do it better, that makes what they do okay?

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            10 months ago

            You can joke about anything, I’m a fan of dark humour. But these aren’t even jokes, they’re just spiteful remarks about 2 dead guys.

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          Nazi servants dying isn’t a sad event. If civilians were killed I’d be sad. Military is putting themselves in that position of their own free will.