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That’ll be $400 for the privilege…
* $400 / yr
Meanwhile blindly installs it because its “free for now”.
It also has built in ads
And how much does payroll add to my salary to use this shit at work so it can mine my data without consent? None.
If you’re at work, it’s not really “your” data. It’s “your company’s” data. And your company might be collecting even more data on you than Microsoft.
You don’t think the data from my user session is being collected by Microsoft?
I’m not just putting my company data into it, I’m putting my data into it too.
I feel like a mother that says: “I’m not mad, just disappointed…”
Microsoft these last few months really has shown that Apple is better about privacy than they are (not that they’re amazing). It just doesn’t even compare anymore though. M$ is injecting tracking and advertising into literally everything now and selling to 3rd partied with impunity. It’s absurd.
Let me be clear that Apple is also not your friend. But when we are taking a birds eye view of all computer users, we have to think about the floor. And the floor at Microsoft is ridiculously low right now.
Problem with apple is they only support their computers. For an os you can slap onto anything you should compare windows to linux. However the linux users proportion isn’t that big to give an accurate comparison.
problem with Apple is the only support their computers
I mean, that’s a legitimate complaint, but I’m not really sure how that is germane when critiquing how Microsoft is treating their own products since the whole point is Apple doesn’t do that with their own products to the same degree. That’s my point of comparison here.
Big fan of Linux in general, and I am in the process of trying to convert over to it. I will need to have a Mac in my life for the foreseeable future because I am a professional editor, but beyond that I think I can make the leap to Linux as my daily driver.
What does Apple do with our data?
A lot of it is internal usage which is (usually) reasonable. And there isn’t anything as expansive as what we see Microsoft doing as far as I can tell. But given their size and reach I would say it’s safe to assume there is something(s) going on with our data we probably object to. They do overall seem more committed to privacy on their machines.
Just so I understand your reasoning, you have no evidence or examples of Apple using or abusing your data but you assume they do because (checks notes) their “size and reach”?
You are asking a legitimate question and I would be happy to answer it, but based on your tone and your use of the ridiculously overused/needlessly antagonistic “checks notes” joke you’re not here to have an actual conversation.
Edit:
Screw it here’s your answer before you claim I’m dodging it.
This is the company that cooperates with law enforcement the vast majority of the time by handing over vast swaths of user data and used to put in back doors that they would utilize to cooperate with warrants. They also do allow apps to collect data.
So no, it’s not just because they are massive, but because they are massive and have a track record that is pretty gray at best.
I am writing this on my iPhone, I do my work on a Mac. This isn’t some anti-Mac stuff or whatever. I just am acknowledging reality.
You are conflating compliance with law enforcement warrants, which is a legal requirement, with blatant usage of non-anonymized data FOR PROFIT. Really? Shame on you.
If your loyalty to Apple is so strong that you can’t bother to read what I took the time to put together, or even have healthy skepticism and take basic measures to protect yourself, then this conversation was a mistake to pursue. “Shame on me” indeed. Later man, not wasting my time further.
Gotta point out, that hasn’t been the Microsoft logo since Win7.
At least it’s recognizable. Windows 12 will probably be just a single blue square.
“It’s a single pane window. A single pane of glass. It symbolizes the synergy between man and machine. Window 12 offers an enhanced user experience with greater simplicity and clarity. Also, we’ve revamped our mobile and iOT OS lines which we’re calling ‘Porthole 12’ and ‘Peephole 12’ respectively.” -Microsoft, Probably
Microsoft doesn’t give things new names. It reuses the same name for a vastly different product to keep everyone confused. Outlook. Outlook (the hosted email service). Outlook express. Skype. Skype for business. Teams. Teams professional. Etc etc.
*leans hard on cane:
Ya got a problem with crusty old memes, kid?
The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time.
In my day kids respected their elder memes… They regularly shitposted them and people were grateful for those crusty memes.
Abe gets the upvote.
Fine then: https://i.imgur.com/2V7ZVlD.png
The meme itself must be a good 15 years old too
No, I just made it myself. It’s brand new and shiny.
We need more main stream apps and games for linux. That’s the only reason I’m the on fence now.
What in particular do you feel like is missing? I mean, there’s a lot of stuff on Linux already. There’s no shortage of apps or games. But there might be some specific thing that you want that linux doesn’t have.
“We just need to make sure that the data collection of your data collecting app is working on your data collecting OS so we’re gonna need to add some data collection on that.”
Holy hell
I tried to change to Thunderbird but I can’t figure out how to make it work with my work e-mail. I’m wondering how much of that has to do with my work e-mail using office365. 🤔
