There Is No “Both Sides” to Donald Trump’s Threat to Democracy - eviltoast
  • AnonTwo@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    It’s regulated democracy.

    It turns out that if you don’t regulate things to some extent, humans exploit them. Who would’ve thought huh?

    Plus, did you forget what the insurrection was about? You don’t get much more undemocratic than trying to flatout deny the results of the democratic process.

    In one case you have a democracy with defenses against corruption (imperfect but still present), in the other case you have something that is just flatout not democracy in any definition of the word.

    • blazera@kbin.social
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      Theres a lot of regulated democracies in the world. North Korea has elections every 4 years. For allowed candidates of course.

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        1 year ago

        I can’t vote for:

        • Arnold Schwartzeneggar <- Constitution regulates, saying,“Sorry, not born here”

        • Billie Eilish <- Constitution regulates, saying,“Sorry, not seasoned enough. Try again in a few elections.”

        • Donald trump <- Constitution regulates, saying,“Sorry, you engaged in insurrection. Fuck right the hell off.”

        Not saying I would if I could, just saying.

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          Right, again telling me its illegal, i already know. It aint democratic for all those examples. Especially the age one, man we need younger reps.

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            Donald Trump is anti-democratic by definition now. He made that very apparent, and has even promised to be a dictator “just on day one”. What you are suggesting is we give everyone a fair shot at overtaking the government because if it happens it must be because everyone (or the majority) wanted it.

            Need I remind you that he incited the insurrection because he was already losing the democratically held vote? You don’t get to rip up the rules of democracy and then cry your way back into abusing democracy.

            If I have failed to educate you then I sincerely wish you take a public course in Civic Studies. Just the 101 course should do fine.

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        Well when you establish democracy after you’ve already destroyed the entire foundation of it, it makes it a lot easier to get the results you want.

        Exactly why the insurrection was kindof an issue.

        Pretty bad faith to argue North Korea though, like there aren’t a lot of other things with the situation that make it massively different from whats happening here.

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            You’re confusing sanctioned with qualified.

            Trump does not qualify. By definition. Just like someone under 35 doesn’t qualify. Those are the rules.

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                They are not. Quite strictly speaking, the Russian example you gave is an abuse of authority.

                You are comparing a silencing of political opponents to someone who has performed the most basic form of treason. Like, there are no countries where Trumps situation would not be worse for what he has been recorded doing.

                You are blatantly trying to tie together things to support someone who is cut and dry a traitor to the people of the country, not just it’s government, and has already been noted on many accounts that he will disrupt the democracy in the country if elected.

                If you want to keep dying on this hill, I’ll probably just block you because this is a waste of time. Because you’re not here to have a discussion, you’re here to find people who don’t understand these basic concepts that you can potentially sway to your side. In other words you’re a waste of time to argue with, you decided from the outgo what your stance was.