No, you would not lose in Socialism unless you are a landlord or business owner. If you’re an engineer, doctor, lawyer, or other skilled worker that makes good money, you would be better off in Socialism. Socialism is about worker ownership of the Means of Production. Again, unless you’re a landlord or a business owner, you stand to gain. It isn’t the bottom 50% against the top 50%, but closer to the bottom 99% against the top 1%.
If you’re asking about leftist strategy, Unionization is a big one, see Syndicalism. Anarchists and Marxists, reformers and revolutionary Socialists, there are plenty of strategies for enacting meaningful change.
Landlord and many other assets for passive income. They would also be gone. I’m aware. But I’m not of the 1%.
But be it as it may, it’s not about me.
Strategies and plans are all cool for political discussions, but, my point being was, that it can’t be done (anymore). We’re way past the possibilities of changes of such a titanic nature. It was nearly un-doable before globalization, now it’s an utopian dream.
Say you and all your friend-workers manage to seize the means of production in your really big company. Bosses are killed/kicked/whatever, you also managed a perfectly fair strategy that every worker is 100% fairly compensated yadda yadda.
What then? How long do you think your bank-accounts aren’t frozen? How long will it take for the power-company to show you who’s boss?
How long til your buyers (assuming you produced something) won’t buy anymore (unless you’re B2C maybe)? How long til your suppliers stop supplying?
And you were one big mega-corpo amongst thousands. In just your country. And it might last a week. And that was already a big “IF”, as you would need to convince the vast majority of co-workers to do the same shit at day X.
And how many wouldn’t dare to risk (especially in anti-worker-countries like the USA) being suddenly job- and then homeless? How many would like to but don’t dare coz of the kids at home?
Unless any strategy contain a real-life-solution, it’s just a nice topic for a theoretical discussion. No real thing. I would love to be wrong though.
Revolution doesn’t happen in one place, reform neither. That’s why I suggested reading actual leftist theory, like Syndicalism, because its clear that you ignored that part of my comment to again pretend there’s no actual leftist strategy that had taken what you’ve said into account.
No, you would not lose in Socialism unless you are a landlord or business owner. If you’re an engineer, doctor, lawyer, or other skilled worker that makes good money, you would be better off in Socialism. Socialism is about worker ownership of the Means of Production. Again, unless you’re a landlord or a business owner, you stand to gain. It isn’t the bottom 50% against the top 50%, but closer to the bottom 99% against the top 1%.
If you’re asking about leftist strategy, Unionization is a big one, see Syndicalism. Anarchists and Marxists, reformers and revolutionary Socialists, there are plenty of strategies for enacting meaningful change.
Landlord and many other assets for passive income. They would also be gone. I’m aware. But I’m not of the 1%. But be it as it may, it’s not about me.
Strategies and plans are all cool for political discussions, but, my point being was, that it can’t be done (anymore). We’re way past the possibilities of changes of such a titanic nature. It was nearly un-doable before globalization, now it’s an utopian dream.
Say you and all your friend-workers manage to seize the means of production in your really big company. Bosses are killed/kicked/whatever, you also managed a perfectly fair strategy that every worker is 100% fairly compensated yadda yadda. What then? How long do you think your bank-accounts aren’t frozen? How long will it take for the power-company to show you who’s boss? How long til your buyers (assuming you produced something) won’t buy anymore (unless you’re B2C maybe)? How long til your suppliers stop supplying? And you were one big mega-corpo amongst thousands. In just your country. And it might last a week. And that was already a big “IF”, as you would need to convince the vast majority of co-workers to do the same shit at day X. And how many wouldn’t dare to risk (especially in anti-worker-countries like the USA) being suddenly job- and then homeless? How many would like to but don’t dare coz of the kids at home?
Unless any strategy contain a real-life-solution, it’s just a nice topic for a theoretical discussion. No real thing. I would love to be wrong though.
Revolution doesn’t happen in one place, reform neither. That’s why I suggested reading actual leftist theory, like Syndicalism, because its clear that you ignored that part of my comment to again pretend there’s no actual leftist strategy that had taken what you’ve said into account.
Touch grass, basically.
deleted by creator